Relevant Article: Asian News International sues Wikipedia for “Defamation” and Archived version

Apparently, Delhi High Court asked Wikipedia to disclose information about editors of said article, which made some controversial edits on the Wikipedia ANI page.

The article states that Wikipedia failed to provide said information.

From the article

Wikipedia explained that the delay had been caused as the platform didn’t have any physical presence in India.

“It is not a question of the defendant not being an entity in India. We will close your business transactions here," the judge said in a stark warning.

ANI asks for removal of said “controversial” edits and wants ₹20000000, ~$240k from Wikipedia.

Archived original article

From the related article:

2022-10-10: Ayurvedic Medicine Manufacturers of India filed petitions to the Supreme Court, saying that an article on Wikipedia about them, as defamatory. To that, the bench said, “You can edit the Wikipedia article…” and that they could use “any other remedy available to them”.

Additional information from me:

  • IP Addresses of people in Talk and the times of edit are available freely on the Wikipedia page.
  • Wikipedia SHOULD NOT be expected to have the ability to trace people on the internet any more than that.
  • @CorkyskogEnglish
    1•10 days ago

    I wonder who is harmed more by Wikipedia stopping business in India? Indians or Wikipedia?

    • @[email protected]OPEnglish
      2•10 days ago

      For the average Indian, it would be just a minor inconvenience. Having to visit a site full of ads and half-assedly written information, whenever they want to know something new, is the price they will pay.

      For Uni students, looking for stuff to plagiarise, it won’t be much different either, as most of the times, Wikipedia is considered a less reliable source than a shady website having 10’s of ad popups leading to malicious targets. Probably because the one grading it, only has to check to make sure it is not a Wikipedia URL and doesn’t really need to actually open the link to see here it leads.

      Wikipedia kinda works like a Democracy of the type, ‘Logical Consensus’, making it very hard for people to just throw money at it to get false information shown, at least on topics with enough hands-on people[1]. This makes it very unappealing for political campaigns. Meaning, Govt. doesn’t have a reason to care for it.

      What we lose:

      • As a kid, most articles I read on Wikipedia were Science and Technology related. They seemed to have a certain amount of care put into writing them and I picked up a bit of “care” from it.
        • We lose this potential positive influence on future inquisitive children, which will probably turn to video based sources (assuming they don’t just give up and go back to WhatsApp/X/other stuff). While video based sources are also fine, IMHO, the way Wikipedia tends to have stuff laid out, is a really nice way to let people learn new stuff, which might be leagues away from their on level and domain.

      What Wikipedia loses:

      • India has a lot of people. A lot of them would be contributing to the information in it. That is lost.
        • Catch: A lot of the Indians in Science and Tech tend to just emigrate. So, Wikipedia still has those.
        • Blind Spot: I don’t really read much other than Science and Tech and won’t be able to assess the amount and value of other articles. By extension, the contribution by resident Indians to those.

      What Wikipedia as a company, loses:

      • A bit of money maybe.
        • Though still much less than what ANI is trying to extort

      What I gain:

      • Another reason to consider emigration
      • A reason to vote. And not incumbency this time.

      What happens if Wikipedia pays out?

      • A precept
        • I’d rather have WMF block Indian access, than this happen.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

      1. as compared to a normal democracy, which only relies on number of people supporting a decision ↩︎

      • @[email protected]OPEnglish
        2•10 days ago

        ANI does seem to be getting the Streisand effect going though. I would never have checked their Wikipedia page and never have known of said allegations. And no, I didn’t even have to see the Wikipedia page, to know that something on those lines was written on Wikipedia.