Update I have come to a decision. Thank you to all who contributed suggestions. Please feel free to keep the discussion going to help others.

  • Autonomous UserOP
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    114 days ago

    Pixel 8 Pro — minimum 7 years support and hardware memory tagging support

    • @[email protected]
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      94 days ago

      These devices aren’t even constructed to last 7 years. I don’t see that either of those things are worth £600 personally.

      • @[email protected]
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        54 days ago

        Well if the support ends, GrapheneOS support ends too. That’s why more years of support is important here.

        • @[email protected]
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          64 days ago

          What relevance does that have to what I said? If the physical phone isn’t going to last that long then I’d argue it is of little importance.

          • @[email protected]
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            123 days ago

            Well if you recommend getting an older phone because it’s cheaper, GrapheneOS support may be a concern. Also I think a phone usually can last for 7 years with 1 battery replacement, good ambient temperature and careful use.

            • @[email protected]
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              13 days ago

              I mean, the 6a still has 3 years of support left so whilst it is older it is hardly at the end of its supported life.

              Not everyone can change a battery in a phone, I can but I would still rather not do it on a phone that isn’t really anything special and whilst yes they could feasibly last that long I think in practical everyday use application by the time you are getting to three years of daily use it will be beaten up and physically not in great shape any more for your average user.

              • @[email protected]
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                33 days ago

                My pixel 6 is about 3 years old and the only wear I can see on it is a single little micro scratch in the top right corner of the screen that I can’t see without a light reflecting off of it. I don’t bother with a screen protector, just a thin silicon case. Battery is fine for about 2 days of normal use even though I regularly use a wireless charger.

              • Autonomous UserOP
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                3 days ago

                I don’t know what your doing but with a case and screen protector, I have never ended on a phone looking worse than factory new.

                Battery is a good point. I can have a phone shop change the battery for me.

              • @[email protected]
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                3 years is not that much unless the user doesn’t mind changing phones rather often and beating up a phone in such a short time is just a massive skill issue tbh.

          • haui
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            53 days ago

            Whatever idea you have to phones, you‘re wrong. They can easily make 5 plus years if you treat them right. The more problematic part is daily use and battery degradation/repair.

            But google sucks anyway so I‘ll stay with postmarketOS on my oneplus6 and wait for my camera to come to life some day (hopefully).

              • haui
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                11 day ago

                Because android. PostmarketOS is linux (based on alpine linux)

                • Lemongrab
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                  115 hours ago

                  Interesting. I have a vastly divergent opinion on linux for mobile, mostly that it is not secure. This is true for Desktop linux but is more important considering the threat model necessary for mobile device Security.

                  • haui
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                    111 hours ago

                    Feel free to elaborate. Everything I have read over my life (couple thousand pages I guess) suggestd that linux can be a lot more secure than windows and ios.