The “Uncommitted” movement seeking a change in the Democratic Party’s approach to the war in Gaza on Thursday announced it is not ready to support Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris — while urging voters not to back Republican nominee Donald Trump or third-party candidates who could help Trump win the November election.
The “Uncommitted” group “opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing,” the statement continues. Additionally, the group is “not recommending a third-party vote in the Presidential election, especially as third party votes in key swing states could help inadvertently deliver a Trump presidency given our country’s broken electoral college system.”
Okay so how about this, you tell me when in allowed to vote for the candidate I like best. Hows that? This elections too close right? How about next one? Do I get to vote how I want then? Or will democracy be at stake yet again, like it always is.
Maybe if you spent as much time trying to convince people its a good thing to vote and that they can vote however they’d like to instead of attempting to discourage third party voters from voting at all, you’d actually be helping the democrats win.
Remind me which group is larger, americans who don’t vote or green party members? Maybe your focus is in the wrong place, and maybe the democrats are only throwing the green party under the bus so they don’t have to disagree with green party policies that would be wildly popular with the voting public.
The republicans are psychopaths but the democrats are manipulative at best most of the time. Some like it but it turns others off of the party too.
I’m honestly starting to wonder if you’re just not a native English speaker and this is purely a breakdown in communication, so I’m going to try to keep this as simple as I can. Please tell me if you just don’t understand any of these points.
You are allowed to vote for whoever you want. Nobody is going to FORCE you to vote one way or another.
Attempting to persuade you to vote in a particular way, without threats of retaliation for refusing to do so, is not force.
Having to face the consequences of the result of the election is not force.
I am able to care about more than one thing. Being a part of this conversation doesn’t mean that I am not also intent on convincing more people to vote. You don’t take up much of my time, interest, or attention, I can do other things too.
Third party voters are already voters. They are already going to vote, it is only a question of who they will vote for.
Green Party voters have more in common with Democrats than they do with Republicans. That means the Green Party is more likely to attract Democrat voters than they are to attract Republican voters. This is why a bigger Green Party vote turnout means more people who would have otherwise voted Democrat, didn’t. That is what people call the Spoiler effect when talking about the Green Party, and third parties in general. While the Green Party is all but completely incapable of actually winning an election, it pulls more votes away from Democrats than it does Republicans, thus a more successful Green Party campaign means a more likely Republican victory. This is why Ranked Choice voting would allow Third Parties a chance to win, people could vote for them without making their most hated choice more likely to win.
Again, you are ALLOWED to vote for whoever you want. If you’re going to vote third party, you are wasting your time, but you are allowed. If you want Third Party candidates to have any chance of ever winning, we need to change away from the First Past the Post voting system. You could also try campaigning to get your positions and ideas out into the public consciousness before the General Election, rather than just surfacing in time to swing results toward Republicans.
Sure I follow you but its based on hopes and wishes. You are assuming a green party vote would go to a democrat otherwise. Thats another mistake. Again, this isnt how voting works.
I understand that you think voting a certain way really means something else ultimately, but I’m telling you that you don’t get to tell people what their vote means. You barely know what your own vote will mean ultimately much less anyone else’s.
The fact is you have no idea what will happen, but then try to predict it anyways. But its not just a prediction because you go even further. You can disagree with me all you want but its a difference in perspective and neither of us is “wrong” truly. We wont know until the election.
So finally we get to the answer of my very first question. No, you in fact do not know how voting works, and you’re banking on hopes and dreams and happy thoughts instead of an actual understanding of the system you nominally participate in.
Okay thanks teach.