Boeing said Monday it made a “best and final offer” to striking machinists that includes bigger raises and larger bonuses, but the workers’ union said the proposal isn’t good enough and there won’t be a ratification vote before Boeing’s deadline at the end of the week.

The union complained that Boeing publicized its latest offer to 33,000 striking workers without first bargaining with union negotiators.

“Boeing does not get to decide when or if you vote,” leaders of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers district 751 told members Monday night. “The company has refused to meet for further discussion; therefore, we will not be voting” on Friday, as Boeing insisted.

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    That’s not the definition of freedom. Freedom means you can act or speak without opposition from the state. If the state provides someone with a “free” service and money, that means they took it from someone else, which is theft. We shouldn’t encourage one megacorp like the government to increase their theft levels, rather turn to voluntary charity organizations.

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      That’s a lot of words to say the government should stop helping people in need and we should beg the wealth hoarders for help.

      If the state provides a service, taxes paid for it. Are taxes theft?

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        Yes, of course its theft. Taking what doesn’t belong to you is theft. Don’t you realize the government also pays itself? Their token “altruism” allegedly “helping people” is a charade to assuage ignorant people. Most members of the US congress make 2-3× what average citizens make base, plus tons more in bribery money and insider trading. Don’t even get me started on the absurd amount of stolen money that flows into the coffers of military manufacturing contracting. It’s amazing how willing people are to just happily accept 30%-50% of their working hours go to feed those government fat cats.

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          Under that logic, rent would be theft as well, correct?

          Paying taxes is akin to paying rent for living in a certain location, just like paying a landlord.

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            You enter into a rental agreement of your own free will. Taxes are taken (by force if you refuse).

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      My neighbor has me chained to a wall in his basement, I guess because it’s not the government doing it I’m technically free.