• Rekorse
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    2 hours ago

    This part: “You might lose your whole arm, instead of an hand, but that is a sacrifice that I am willing to take.”

    The point here is that for most of these third party voters, the democrat and the republican are equally awful. There is no accidentally helping the opposition because both parties are the opposition.

    A big problem is democrats acting like there is no comparison between them and the republicans. The democrats do awful stuff too, they have better PR and lawyers though.

    And far more simply, if the democrats are currently helping kill your family and friends in your homeland, how could ou possibly argue they should vote democrat? Would you in their position?

    If its not possible for her to gain more votes than she loses by taking a stance of peace, then thats not the fault of third party voters.

    • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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      30 minutes ago

      That quote was “misquoted” hahaha sorry but you realize that I made it up by combining the meme in the post of this comment section and the words of the user that I talked to, to highlight their nonsense. How is that misquoted? Like if I write “I am stinky”, i am not misquoting anyone because I am not assigning it to anyone. I am not claiming that it is a quote. and if I did, I would be the author of the quote and how the fuck do I misquote myself? So what are you on about here???

      So now you want to tell me that a third party voter disagrees with Harris and trump in all point the same amount? What a ridiculous notion. What would they say? “I disagree that trans people should be allowed to exist but also I disagree that trans people shouldn’t be allowed to exist.” Get serious.

      “Democrats acting like there is no comparison between them and the republicans” there isn’t though. One party supports a guy who has a history of praising Hilter and Nazi Germany in general, tells the IDF to finish up, supports white supremacists, and of course, expresses fascistic ideas. The other is in favor of democracy, her name is Harris. Sure, the democrats has their flaws, but there is no comparison.

      “The democrats are helping to kill your family and friends…” Yes. Yes I would. Because my understanding of politics is practical and not idealistic. Harris can be convinced that supporting this is a big mistake. Trump wants them to finish up. Third party is a lost vote for the party that I agree more with, so a vote for trump in practice. So I would vote for Harris. I am sorry for the victims but I rather help them a little in reality than a lot in fantasy.

      “Gain votes”: to this point, I wrote a lot and decided to keep it short. This is besides the point of our discussion. It is heavily implying that Harris is making her decision to maximize her voter turnout. It is naive to think voter turnout is the only concern of a vice president with foreign policy experience in regards of going against a close military ally and years of co-operation of their intelligence agencies. I don’t know if you know but a lot of security software used in the us is written and/or owned by former unit 8200 members; you know the israeli intelligence corps. There is a risk why the us banned Kaspersky, after Russia invasion. But as I think all of this is besides the point, I will leave this with a “I don’t support the way Israel is operating, regardless how one wants to call it, it is morally wrong. Don’t understand my criticism of nativity as a support of Harris’s stance”