And I’m being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don’t understand it. Can someone please “steelman” that argument for me?

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    Naïve/entitled people fail to grasp the concept of compromise.

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      Exactly whatbwas the compromise? The entire genocide/atrocity has occured om herself and Biden’s watch. She then failed to disance herself from the policy and did not take a position that aligned with people concerned about supporting a genocide.

      Is Trump worse on this topic? Almost certainly.

      Entitled people are the ones that felt they could speak over the valid concerns of the public because “I am the lesser of two evils so you have to vote for me.” Turned out well, the US continues its fownward trajectory and to be an embarrassment all because of…supporting a genocide. It wasnt even a difficult one, a remedial foreign policy issue fucked Kamala and she can have her shame for it.

      The entitled people are those who insist the conscientious objectors should have put their concerns aside.

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      Is genocide not too far to compromise on? Or is it less of an issue because it’s a genocide of Arabs?

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        Which do you choose: genocide or WORSE genocide? You have to pick one. Not picking either gets you the latter by default. Make a choice.

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            It’s a stupid question. But that’s the reality. So genocide or worse genocide? If you say neither, it’s probably going to be worse genocide.

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              Some people really don’t grasp the concept of the trolley problem.

              A train is headed towards 5 people, you can pull a lever and switch tracks to kill 1 person. What do you do?

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                People who think the trolley problem has a clear cut solution that we have to “get” are on the starting edge of the Dunning-Kruger curve.

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              What group of people could Democrats kill that would leave you unable to support either party? Clearly, it’s not Arabs.

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                More people than the Republicans would. And then I would vote Republican. Because that’s the choice on election day.

                Edit: if all you’re doing is not voting, you do nothing to help anyone. If you are actually helping in meaningful ways, then voting to pick the easier opponent does not undermine your work.

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                  There’s absolutely no logical reason to believe that. Democrats have escalated war on three fronts with nuclear armed superpowers, and armed a genocide.

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                    There are the words straight out of Trump’s mouth. If you believe that Democrats will kill more people than Republicans, that’s a completely different conversation. Though it still mostly boils down to: genocide or worse genocide, pick one, and if you don’t pick, you’re likely to get worse genocide.