• babybus
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    10 days ago

    If it took anon 30 minutes to write hello world in java, programming is not for anon.

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          9 days ago

          Some of us try to understand what we’re doing, rather than just copy/paste. It’s easy to discount how difficult learning the basics of something is when you’re already past it.

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          9 days ago

          And most IDEs will autogenerate it for you.

          That said, I think it highlights everything I hate about Java:

          public class MyClass {

          Why does it need to be a class? I’m not constructing anything?

          public static void main(String[] args) {

          Why is this a method? It should be a top-level function. Also, in most cases, I don’t care about the arguments, so those should be left out.

          System.out.println(“Hello world!”);

          Excuse me, what? Where did System come from, and why does it have an “out” static member? Also, how would I format it if I felt so inclined? So many questions.

          And here are examples from languages I prefer:

          C:

          #include “stdio.h”

          Ok, makes sense, I start with nothing.

          int main() {

          Makes sense that we’d have an entrypoint.

          printf(“Hello world”);

          Again, pretty simple.

          Python:

          print(“Hello world”)

          Ok, Python cheats.

          Rust:

          fn main() {

          Ooh, entrypoint.

          println!(“Hello world”);

          I have to understand macros enough to realize this is special, but that’s it.

          In C, Python, and Rust, complexity starts later, whereas Java shoves it down your throat.

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        9 days ago

        Thank you. If you bothered to read a 5 minutes tutorial instead of posting to 4chan, you could also reach this level of knowledge.

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          9 days ago

          Don’t be mad, you’re the one that commented lol. It’s like you’re choosing to be upset

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            9 days ago

            I thanked you for your reply and suggested reading a tutorial. How does that make me mad and upset? You’re acting weird.