Magnus Carlsen left the New York competition after he was told he had to change out of his jeans. Now, the International Chess Federation has relaxed its dress code rules to allow for "elegant deviations".
I don’t know him from a hole in the wall, but I wish they’d normalize jeans for office work. These are no longer the days when denim was only worn by physical laborers and looked shoddy. Jeans can look just as nice or just as awful as any other piece of clothing now.
In the mid-2000s, I was so confused by office culture and having to wear dress pants. I was venting at a tech conference about it.
Then the room erupted in laughter. Like, Microsoft employees wearing jeans. Apple employees wearing potato sacks. IT guys wearing ThinkPads.
In interviews, I now ask about dress code. It’s a yellow flag if the company has other weird micromanaging rules. Which is also why I don’t work in Fintech or gov.
Maybe it’s my job (IT), but sometimes I’m the only one in shorts or a hoodie in the technical management meetings. Fuck that shit, you hired me to do lead a geek team (myself included), and I am doing it. Them servers don’t give a shit about what I’m wearing. I’ve trimmed my mustache once this year, my beard is way too long, and I’m also expanding my tattoo sleeves, going for the neck soon. 🤷
While i do get your sentiment, i also somewhat disagree. I like being professional looking while being professional looking, and then relaxing while looking relaxed. Imo it creates a barrier between work and living, så that the two are properly separated.
And that’s okay, for you. I used to do the same. I have dozens of button up shirts collected over the years (most of which don’t fit me anymore, unfortunately) from back when I had to go to the office daily. When I started working from home, not having to care about what I’m wearing removed a stress factor from my life that I didn’t know I didn’t need. Now I go to the office a couple days per week, and I just make sure I showered and that my d&d t-shirt is clean.
So it’s kind of a long story! To try and shorten it: I didn’t wear jeans much as a kid/teen because I have problems with my stomach and the button waist hurt my stomach. So I always had stretch pants on, and they weren’t a great look for me. I was already bullied a lot and the pants didn’t help any. Then I entered the working world and had to wear dressy clothes. I honestly didn’t really care though. 27 years of dressy clothes, and my boss retired and her replacement did not give a flying fig what I wore. Over the years, my stomach issues had gotten worse but I actually found buttoned pants more comfortable now. I went hog wild and bought all the jeans. All kinds of cute shoes to go with the jeans. I was fashionable! Yay! Aaaand then a year ago we got a new Big Boss who decided to require uniforms. He gave us a year to get used to the idea before we had to start following the new rules. Today was actually my last jeans at work day; Thursday it’s on to uniforms. I don’t actually mind the uniforms, but I am seriously mourning my cute clothes because outside of work I’m basically a shut-in and will almost never wear them again.
Well, trousers are button closure, but you can also get ones where the closure is on elastic, if that’s more comfortable. These days, there’s a lot of more adaptive clothing.
I don’t know him from a hole in the wall, but I wish they’d normalize jeans for office work. These are no longer the days when denim was only worn by physical laborers and looked shoddy. Jeans can look just as nice or just as awful as any other piece of clothing now.
Normalize wearing whatever the fuck people want as long as it’s not obscene or violent.
They’ll have a hard time getting me not to wear jogging pants to sit in front of a screen all day when they force me to go back to the office!
In the mid-2000s, I was so confused by office culture and having to wear dress pants. I was venting at a tech conference about it.
Then the room erupted in laughter. Like, Microsoft employees wearing jeans. Apple employees wearing potato sacks. IT guys wearing ThinkPads.
In interviews, I now ask about dress code. It’s a yellow flag if the company has other weird micromanaging rules. Which is also why I don’t work in Fintech or gov.
I’m imagining IT peeps wearing ThinkPads as loinclothes now
Maybe it’s my job (IT), but sometimes I’m the only one in shorts or a hoodie in the technical management meetings. Fuck that shit, you hired me to do lead a geek team (myself included), and I am doing it. Them servers don’t give a shit about what I’m wearing. I’ve trimmed my mustache once this year, my beard is way too long, and I’m also expanding my tattoo sleeves, going for the neck soon. 🤷
While i do get your sentiment, i also somewhat disagree. I like being professional looking while being professional looking, and then relaxing while looking relaxed. Imo it creates a barrier between work and living, så that the two are properly separated.
Clothes on? Professional.
Clothes off? Relaxed.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and that’s like your choice
And that’s okay, for you. I used to do the same. I have dozens of button up shirts collected over the years (most of which don’t fit me anymore, unfortunately) from back when I had to go to the office daily. When I started working from home, not having to care about what I’m wearing removed a stress factor from my life that I didn’t know I didn’t need. Now I go to the office a couple days per week, and I just make sure I showered and that my d&d t-shirt is clean.
I wear jeans for my office job. Granted, I also have to work with computer equipment, so I’m often moving stuff around and under desks and tables.
Why do you want jeans specifically? You can probably find trousers that are just as comfy and durable as jeans.
So it’s kind of a long story! To try and shorten it: I didn’t wear jeans much as a kid/teen because I have problems with my stomach and the button waist hurt my stomach. So I always had stretch pants on, and they weren’t a great look for me. I was already bullied a lot and the pants didn’t help any. Then I entered the working world and had to wear dressy clothes. I honestly didn’t really care though. 27 years of dressy clothes, and my boss retired and her replacement did not give a flying fig what I wore. Over the years, my stomach issues had gotten worse but I actually found buttoned pants more comfortable now. I went hog wild and bought all the jeans. All kinds of cute shoes to go with the jeans. I was fashionable! Yay! Aaaand then a year ago we got a new Big Boss who decided to require uniforms. He gave us a year to get used to the idea before we had to start following the new rules. Today was actually my last jeans at work day; Thursday it’s on to uniforms. I don’t actually mind the uniforms, but I am seriously mourning my cute clothes because outside of work I’m basically a shut-in and will almost never wear them again.
Well, trousers are button closure, but you can also get ones where the closure is on elastic, if that’s more comfortable. These days, there’s a lot of more adaptive clothing.
Dude, I’ve worn jeans, sweats, or shorts to work since the late 80s.