it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.

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    Ultimately, whichever position is “correct” doesn’t really matter. If you don’t address domestic problems then you’re probably going to lose the election and then you don’t get any say in what happens at all, which is, you know, what happened.

    That isn’t “what happened”. What happened was the public got played by domestic and foreign propaganda + some sprinkles of misogyny and racism.

    Bidens admin was one of the best in a long time and was infinitely more productive than the orangutan could ever dream of being.

    But because Biden was too stubborn to not go for a second term, Kamala was placed in a shit position with only 3 months to build a campaign/image, and despite her situation she still performed insanely well because she’s also infinitely more competent and intelligent than the orangutan currently in the white house.

    Voters are so fucking dumb and uninformed, that the most googled thing in a bunch of states on election day was “did Biden drop out?” Then they decided to vote for the old orange criminal loser, who tried to steal the 2020 election and a few weeks before was ranting on TV like a senile grandpa about the Haitians “eating the cats and the dogs”.

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      Nonsense take. Biden dropped out because his brain was melting and it got to a point that nobody could reasonably pretend otherwise, he was also polling like shit, and both of those factors are why he dropped out. Three months is plenty of time to build a campaign, it’s comparable to election seasons in other countries, if anything, it was more advantageous to Kamala for her to be able to skip the primary, especially considering how badly she did in the 2020 primary.

      Conditions declined under Biden, in part due to a global wave of inflation that caused incumbent parties to be unseated in many elections around the world. Kamala failed to distinguish herself from Biden’s economic policy despite the fact that purchasing power has declined, and followed his unpopular Israel policy as well.

      Your narrative is heavily biased, it’s designed to absolve democratic candidates of any and all blame and shift it onto the voters rather than looking at what actually happened. If the democrats fail to learn from their mistakes, they will keep making them again and again.

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        Nonsense take. Biden dropped out because his brain was melting and it got to a point that nobody could reasonably pretend otherwise, he was also polling like shit, and both of those factors are why he dropped out. Three months is plenty of time to build a campaign, it’s comparable to election seasons in other countries, if anything, it was more advantageous to Kamala for her to be able to skip the primary, especially considering how badly she did in the 2020 primary.

        No idea why you’re commenting on why Biden did/didn’t drop out as I didn’t even give a take on that. Fighting a ghost for no reason, but ok. For Kamala personally it was better that she didn’t have to go through primaries, but it’s worse for the Dems. Obviously.

        Yes inflation was the #1 cause, which wasn’t Bidens fault. US also recovered from the pandemic better than peer economies and earned the title of “economic envy of the world”, thanks to his administration.

        People got brainwashed regardless into blaming him for inflation. My argument still stands.

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          which wasn’t Bidens fault.

          You’re always injecting this stuff. I already said it was global inflation that caused other incumbent parties to lose. You’re constantly trying to reaffirm your beliefs and it gets in the way of critical thinking and rational discussion. The goal is to see the world as it is, not stan your favorite politician.

          People got brainwashed regardless into blaming him for inflation.

          People didn’t get “brainwashed,” jfc. Not everyone is an economic expert following global trends. People saw prices go up, so they got upset because the prices were higher. Not everything that happens is because of Russian propaganda.

          And your argument does not still stand. As I said, Kamala failed to distinguish herself from Biden’s unpopular policies.

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            And your argument does not still stand. As I said, Kamala failed to distinguish herself from Biden’s unpopular policies.

            Oh wow, yes my argument does indeed fall just because Kamala failed to “distinguish” herself in a rushed 3-month campaign from Bidens objectively successful administration. Makes sense 👍

            People didn’t get “brainwashed,” jfc. Not everyone is an economic expert following global trends. People saw prices go up, so they got upset because the prices were higher. Not everything that happens is because of Russian propaganda.

            No shit they’re not economic experts, that’s why they blamed Bidens admin, with the help of propagandists.

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              No shit they’re not economic experts, that’s why they blamed Bidens admin,

              Again, you’re getting distracted playing defense on points I already conceded. Jesus, it’s hard to talk to people who are so partisan-brained. Even if I try to give you something you’ll refuse to accept the gift, and then demand it.

              Not everything I say is trying to paint Biden in the worst possible light. I’m not arguing that Biden singlehandly caused global inflation and every other problem in the world. I’m just trying to engage with reality as it is and not this hyper-partisan bullshit that says he can do no wrong and nobody could ever have a legitimate reason to disagree and everything is Russia’s fault.

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                I’m not affirming what you think either lmao. I’m affirming what a large portion of voters were thinking. I’m also the only one here backing up my arguments with facts and polls, so I don’t think I’ll be the one not “engaging with reality”.

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                  You’re doing it again omg 😭

                  I don’t think what I’m saying is even registering because the hyper-partisan brain kicks in and has to defend your favorite politicians, even on points where they’re not under attack.

                  It doesn’t matter if “a large portion of voters” agree with your position if I already said the thing you’re trying to convince me of.

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                    Nobody is here defending favourite politians, you’re just not saying anything of substance on this topic anymore.