I listened to his podcast, and he’s clearly trying to appeal across the aisle. Since anti-trans rhetoric has been heavily weaponized, the topic inevitably came up. My takeaway was that trans rights feel distant from most people’s daily lives, or they’re something parents don’t want their young kids exposed to, which can end up pushing some people away.
Overall, I didn’t think it was terrible. The first episode was rough—Gavin seemed unprepared and on the defensive with his guest. The second episode was better since he had a longer history with that guest, making for a smoother conversation. I’m not a fan of him openly seeking advice from Conservatives on running a campaign, but it does offer some insight.
I listened to his podcast, and he’s clearly trying to appeal across the aisle. Since anti-trans rhetoric has been heavily weaponized, the topic inevitably came up. My takeaway was that trans rights feel distant from most people’s daily lives, or they’re something parents don’t want their young kids exposed to, which can end up pushing some people away.
Overall, I didn’t think it was terrible. The first episode was rough—Gavin seemed unprepared and on the defensive with his guest. The second episode was better since he had a longer history with that guest, making for a smoother conversation. I’m not a fan of him openly seeking advice from Conservatives on running a campaign, but it does offer some insight.