Glad you were able to provide such a detailed reply! I’ll try and elaborate on what I mean:
I haven’t seen a single Anglophone man get called out and made fun of in the way South Asian men are made fun of for the same predatory behaviour. If you have examples, I’d love to see em. But there was an entire subreddit on reddit basically dedicated to specifically South Asian men, and IIRC there wasn’t one that was generally making fun of gross people online (or maybe I just unfortunately saw the wrong circles).
Also to clarify, I get why South Asian men might show up in larger quantity, but my question is primarily: why is the emotion primarily ridicule as opposed to disgust (or sadly, occasionally defense), as we tend to see with Western men making the same creepy advances? Once again, this doesn’t even scratch the surface of other genders!
I’d also like to say that I’m not South Asian (but I am a man, and I am Anglophone). I just notice this and it kinda ticks me off bc I feel like I wanna be angry at these guys for sexually harassing women but I also feel like the fact that people solely posting about brown guys is trying to sell a narrative that only brown guys are creepy and that they’re creepy in a harmless “open bob show vagene” way when some of those very same men might be doing real life harm to people.
Also yea I agree we should probably prioritize just calling out sexual harassment, but in terms of “meme culture”, funny is currency (hence my focus on comedy, trying not to be a total buzzkill just a partial one!)
I was worried of coming off in a patronizing way and I apologize that I did so. My goal was to try and pinpoint the ideology of sexism in different cultures rather than justify it or brush it off, with the larger goal of trying to discuss the interplay of cultural dialogue, western notions of race, and aforementioned sexist behaviour. It seems that I was unclear; that’s totally on me. My bad!
I do think that your last paragraph kind of points to one of my exact issues: we tend to diminish the intelligence of ESL speakers if they get the grammar incorrect. Those South Asian (S.A.) men were fully harassing you! They were being gross! But they are getting brushed off for what white supremacy (as an ideology) might call “sophisticated countries”. I think these memes diminish the severity of sexual harassment while also seeking to emasculate S.A. men. It’s like an oppression double whammy where no one wins.
Anyway, sorry for essay #2; glad to hear your thoughts on the matter! I just hope this discussion at least gets people to be more mindful of what they post more generally.
Dope! I remember growing up seeing Raj from Big Bang Theory (a very misogynistic show in the first place) being basically a caricature of this phenomenon. Unironically glad to see representation of non-South Asian characters being creepy as fuck and yet also comic relief; anyone can be a villain (even me)!
Glad you were able to provide such a detailed reply! I’ll try and elaborate on what I mean:
I haven’t seen a single Anglophone man get called out and made fun of in the way South Asian men are made fun of for the same predatory behaviour. If you have examples, I’d love to see em. But there was an entire subreddit on reddit basically dedicated to specifically South Asian men, and IIRC there wasn’t one that was generally making fun of gross people online (or maybe I just unfortunately saw the wrong circles).
Also to clarify, I get why South Asian men might show up in larger quantity, but my question is primarily: why is the emotion primarily ridicule as opposed to disgust (or sadly, occasionally defense), as we tend to see with Western men making the same creepy advances? Once again, this doesn’t even scratch the surface of other genders!
I’d also like to say that I’m not South Asian (but I am a man, and I am Anglophone). I just notice this and it kinda ticks me off bc I feel like I wanna be angry at these guys for sexually harassing women but I also feel like the fact that people solely posting about brown guys is trying to sell a narrative that only brown guys are creepy and that they’re creepy in a harmless “open bob show vagene” way when some of those very same men might be doing real life harm to people.
Also yea I agree we should probably prioritize just calling out sexual harassment, but in terms of “meme culture”, funny is currency (hence my focus on comedy, trying not to be a total buzzkill just a partial one!)
I was worried of coming off in a patronizing way and I apologize that I did so. My goal was to try and pinpoint the ideology of sexism in different cultures rather than justify it or brush it off, with the larger goal of trying to discuss the interplay of cultural dialogue, western notions of race, and aforementioned sexist behaviour. It seems that I was unclear; that’s totally on me. My bad!
I do think that your last paragraph kind of points to one of my exact issues: we tend to diminish the intelligence of ESL speakers if they get the grammar incorrect. Those South Asian (S.A.) men were fully harassing you! They were being gross! But they are getting brushed off for what white supremacy (as an ideology) might call “sophisticated countries”. I think these memes diminish the severity of sexual harassment while also seeking to emasculate S.A. men. It’s like an oppression double whammy where no one wins.
Anyway, sorry for essay #2; glad to hear your thoughts on the matter! I just hope this discussion at least gets people to be more mindful of what they post more generally.
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Dope! I remember growing up seeing Raj from Big Bang Theory (a very misogynistic show in the first place) being basically a caricature of this phenomenon. Unironically glad to see representation of non-South Asian characters being creepy as fuck and yet also comic relief; anyone can be a villain (even me)!
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