Am American, and “lib” is used every day by MAGA on social media. Just go to X and scroll for a whole couple seconds to see overwhelming proof it’s a MAGA culture war talking point.
I’m not against shitting on liberals either, but there’s clearly a much bigger world wide problem of private equity Fascism that needs solved, and liberals have already been fighting that enemy (albeit not winning that fight). This makes them your friend whether you like it or not.
But solidarity isn’t going to happen if you’re too busy complaining about liberal bullshit to fight with them when needed instead.
Nazis are now in the White House and a Fox News host commands the biggest army in the world.
And that wasn’t even the first 90 days of this dumpster fire.
So I’d rather spend the little time we have left before polical arrests happen to work together than spend time bitching about the history of our possible allies.
I voted for Biden, and was deeply critical of his team. But without question he would be a better President now than Trump is.
Imo words critical of liberals in the US are wasted. Trump will be far more critical of them in the long run, so I’d rather spend my time making allies instead of grandstanding while they’re being publicly admonished.
The next step is them getting arrested, so the time for making allies isn’t long.
Am American, and “lib” is used every day by MAGA on social media. Just go to X
That’s not on TV then, and no I will not go on X. Here on Lemmy, “lib” is used overwhelmingly by leftists. This person complaining about imperialism and right-wing allies is not regurgitating MAGA culture.
Making allies is a great idea. We’re not going to make allies by accusing them of watching TV (like Stephen Colbert) all day.
So is arguing semantics about where and how the term “lib” is being used a better way to gain allies?
Please.
If you ever do go to X, you’d see MAGA uses “lib” the same way the leftists here do. So sure, Lemmy residents may not be regurgitating MAGA culture, but they sure as shit sound like it by complaining about liberals in the same exact way using the same exact terms.
If you’re looking for allies, maybe don’t use the same language of your enemies to recruit them.
Your argument boils down to “but people on lemmy use the word “lib” in a good way.” It’s still the same thought terminating and dehumanizing word my dude, and just because you’re admittedly in the dark to how it’s being used on Twitter doesn’t mean it can be used better by others in a different community.
If we rewind 80 years of history, you’d be defending the right to use the word “jew” to describe those with tight business purses despite it also being used by Hitler for other reasons. You would also defend this position by admitting to not ever reading what’s happening in Germany.
Great take.
Would love to hear your ideas on marketing solidarity to liberal allies by using the term “lib” to win them over.
80 years ago it would be making signs that say “Hey Jews - let’s work together to stop Hitler!”
Which, to the point I’m making, sounds like bullshit rather than a rally cry.
OMG this is a gish gallop. Double standard of semantics. Tone policing. Claiming that one needs to use a Nazi website to know what’s happening in America. Lib fragility.
Literally proving my point how effective you are at distancing your allies.
I don’t spend time on X, but X does exist, which means it’s possible to look at it without immediately becoming a radicalized MAGA asshole.
You are willing to dismiss my point through an assumption I spend a lot of time on X, so maybe you should care about sounding exactly like all the assholes that do.
Which is the point I’m making. You sound and act just like them. Dismissing conflicting opinions through misplaced assumptions now included.
If they’re saying “lib” and not “liberal”, then it’s sure not from American TV.
And you’re paraphrasing a television character.
Am American, and “lib” is used every day by MAGA on social media. Just go to X and scroll for a whole couple seconds to see overwhelming proof it’s a MAGA culture war talking point.
I’m not against shitting on liberals either, but there’s clearly a much bigger world wide problem of private equity Fascism that needs solved, and liberals have already been fighting that enemy (albeit not winning that fight). This makes them your friend whether you like it or not.
But solidarity isn’t going to happen if you’re too busy complaining about liberal bullshit to fight with them when needed instead.
Nazis are now in the White House and a Fox News host commands the biggest army in the world.
And that wasn’t even the first 90 days of this dumpster fire.
So I’d rather spend the little time we have left before polical arrests happen to work together than spend time bitching about the history of our possible allies.
I voted for Biden, and was deeply critical of his team. But without question he would be a better President now than Trump is.
Imo words critical of liberals in the US are wasted. Trump will be far more critical of them in the long run, so I’d rather spend my time making allies instead of grandstanding while they’re being publicly admonished.
The next step is them getting arrested, so the time for making allies isn’t long.
That’s not on TV then, and no I will not go on X. Here on Lemmy, “lib” is used overwhelmingly by leftists. This person complaining about imperialism and right-wing allies is not regurgitating MAGA culture.
Making allies is a great idea. We’re not going to make allies by accusing them of watching TV (like Stephen Colbert) all day.
So is arguing semantics about where and how the term “lib” is being used a better way to gain allies?
Please.
If you ever do go to X, you’d see MAGA uses “lib” the same way the leftists here do. So sure, Lemmy residents may not be regurgitating MAGA culture, but they sure as shit sound like it by complaining about liberals in the same exact way using the same exact terms.
If you’re looking for allies, maybe don’t use the same language of your enemies to recruit them.
Your argument boils down to “but people on lemmy use the word “lib” in a good way.” It’s still the same thought terminating and dehumanizing word my dude, and just because you’re admittedly in the dark to how it’s being used on Twitter doesn’t mean it can be used better by others in a different community.
If we rewind 80 years of history, you’d be defending the right to use the word “jew” to describe those with tight business purses despite it also being used by Hitler for other reasons. You would also defend this position by admitting to not ever reading what’s happening in Germany.
Great take.
Would love to hear your ideas on marketing solidarity to liberal allies by using the term “lib” to win them over.
80 years ago it would be making signs that say “Hey Jews - let’s work together to stop Hitler!”
Which, to the point I’m making, sounds like bullshit rather than a rally cry.
OMG this is a gish gallop. Double standard of semantics. Tone policing. Claiming that one needs to use a Nazi website to know what’s happening in America. Lib fragility.
Maybe spend less time on X.
Literally proving my point how effective you are at distancing your allies.
I don’t spend time on X, but X does exist, which means it’s possible to look at it without immediately becoming a radicalized MAGA asshole.
You are willing to dismiss my point through an assumption I spend a lot of time on X, so maybe you should care about sounding exactly like all the assholes that do.
Which is the point I’m making. You sound and act just like them. Dismissing conflicting opinions through misplaced assumptions now included.