at the very least I couldn’t seat the fat tire with the hand pump. I borrowed the bottle thing from my friend where you pump it up to a pretty hich psi and burst the tire on. with the schrader I got it on just pumping kinda fast.

and with either valve type a pocket pump just isn’t happening for a fat bike without unrealistic amounts of patience.

That’s all tubeless btw. Fat tubes I’ve only seen schrader.