Why not compare a car that offers multiple variants instead of using different models?
I could tell you that my 1993 Audi S4 was close to 4k pounds to prove that cars haven’t increased in weight that much, it would be irrelevant.
If you compare the same model that comes in gas, hybrid and EV versions you get a realistic portrait. The Kona is one and going from gas to hybrid to EV is a 400lbs jump each time (from about 2900lbs to about 3700lbs).
Truthfully I try not to think about Hyundai at all.
I’m not sure where you’re getting 2900lbs from though, the cheapest 2wd trim is 3005lbs and the AWD ranges from 3203-3505 while the kona electric goes from 3571-3759lbs.
I picked those vehicles specifically though because I have first hand experience riding/driving them and I consider them in roughly equivalent market segments. The other thing to consider is cars designed for multiple power train types are generally heavier than they have to be on the ev version due to unnecessary additional structural components.
Sorry, 3k lbs for the base gas version, 3750lbs for the base electric version, directly from their website. The hybrid version doesn’t exist anymore but it’s not the first time I do this comparison and it fell right in-between.
4150lbs for an ioniq 5, 3500lbs for a Tucson, the first one being on an EV only platform. The Santa Fe is much bigger and that’s the gas model that weights the same as the ioniq 5 in the Hyundai lineup. So there, much better comparison than a bunch of vehicles from different brands. Because let’s be honest, you comparing the weight of a Mach e to an Explorer to show that gas vehicles weight has increased to the point of catching up to EVs doesn’t make much sense. Make an EV the size of an Explorer and see how much that weights! And your other reference is a sedan, which also doesn’t make much sense when comparing to an SUV.
The Base electric version is 3,571lbs per Hyundai’s website.
your other reference is a sedan, which also doesn’t make much sense when comparing to an SUV.
I’m…not comparing it to an SUV. I’m comparing it to the model 3…
Like I said, I’m controlling for market segment. These two are pairs of vehicles someone would feasibly compare against each other if they’re looking for a crossover SUV in one case or an entry-level luxury sedan in the other. Likewise I wouldn’t consider comparing the Tuscon and Ioniq 5 as soon as I saw the pricing difference between the most expensive Tuscon and cheapest Ioniq 5 being $10,000 because they’re not intended for the same buyer.
Why not compare a car that offers multiple variants instead of using different models?
I could tell you that my 1993 Audi S4 was close to 4k pounds to prove that cars haven’t increased in weight that much, it would be irrelevant.
If you compare the same model that comes in gas, hybrid and EV versions you get a realistic portrait. The Kona is one and going from gas to hybrid to EV is a 400lbs jump each time (from about 2900lbs to about 3700lbs).
Truthfully I try not to think about Hyundai at all.
I’m not sure where you’re getting 2900lbs from though, the cheapest 2wd trim is 3005lbs and the AWD ranges from 3203-3505 while the kona electric goes from 3571-3759lbs.
I picked those vehicles specifically though because I have first hand experience riding/driving them and I consider them in roughly equivalent market segments. The other thing to consider is cars designed for multiple power train types are generally heavier than they have to be on the ev version due to unnecessary additional structural components.
Sorry, 3k lbs for the base gas version, 3750lbs for the base electric version, directly from their website. The hybrid version doesn’t exist anymore but it’s not the first time I do this comparison and it fell right in-between.
4150lbs for an ioniq 5, 3500lbs for a Tucson, the first one being on an EV only platform. The Santa Fe is much bigger and that’s the gas model that weights the same as the ioniq 5 in the Hyundai lineup. So there, much better comparison than a bunch of vehicles from different brands. Because let’s be honest, you comparing the weight of a Mach e to an Explorer to show that gas vehicles weight has increased to the point of catching up to EVs doesn’t make much sense. Make an EV the size of an Explorer and see how much that weights! And your other reference is a sedan, which also doesn’t make much sense when comparing to an SUV.
The Base electric version is 3,571lbs per Hyundai’s website.
I’m…not comparing it to an SUV. I’m comparing it to the model 3…
Like I said, I’m controlling for market segment. These two are pairs of vehicles someone would feasibly compare against each other if they’re looking for a crossover SUV in one case or an entry-level luxury sedan in the other. Likewise I wouldn’t consider comparing the Tuscon and Ioniq 5 as soon as I saw the pricing difference between the most expensive Tuscon and cheapest Ioniq 5 being $10,000 because they’re not intended for the same buyer.
1880 X 2.2 = 4136lbs
Price doesn’t matter, size does. If someone wants a compact SUV they won’t cross shop with a full sized SUV just because it’s in the same price range.
That’s the Ioniq 5, we were talking about the Kona Electric up until that point were we not? The Ioniq 5 wasn’t mentioned until your next paragraph.
Oops, sorry, I’ve been awake since 3am so my brain is kinda foggy
1705 X 2.2 = 3750
Interesting, now I’m wondering why they advertise different weights based on which site you use.
Hmmm
Maybe the base version in the US is more basic than in Canada 🤔