• Kecessa
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    2 days ago

    As I said, it’s just historical stats from a bunch of different countries that all show the same thing.

    Both my sisters in law have three kids and get about $1.6k in financial help, super cheap childcare and free healthcare, they’re still in the minority of people who have 3 kids in Canada and most of the decline happened just as the pill was made legal and women started having rights and didn’t depend on their husband to, for example, open a bank account and at a time when buying a house wasn’t an issue.

    Look at migrants from African countries, childbirth over there is super high, they move to a rich country and they don’t have as many kids as the average in their country of origin even though living conditions are better.

    Women rights. Contraception.

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      You call out all the reasons they should have a kid, like free healthcare. But ignore all the reasons why people don’t want to have kids.

      You also ignore all the reasons why someone in a 3rd world country might have more kids. Like mortality rate, needing more hands for work, etc.

      Yes contraception and reproductive rights are part of it. But acting like those are the only things it’s naive.

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        Acting like making peoples lives more comfortable will make them want to have kids is every more naive, that’s why I was replying in the first place. There’s plenty of reasons people don’t want them, women rights gives them even more reasons, women rights and contraception gives them the means to prevent it.

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          2 days ago

          Lol, you’re clearly invested in one side and doing research in only one direction. There are plenty of reasons people would want kids too. There are plenty of reasons they don’t have kids that can be changed.

          You also pick out a chart that conveniently only has things that support this view called out. Ignoring correlation doesn’t equal causation. If you think so, this site will blow your mind https://search.app/RrPkGZ5UpJcSrvHU9

          I’m not here to change your mind, you’ve made it up. I’ve said my piece.

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            Thing is, when you see the same thing happen all over the world then saying “correlation doesn’t equal causation!” just makes you look dumb.

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                1 day ago

                If you bother doing some research you’ll realize that the same thing is happening all over the world, but I know that’s too much to ask from you.

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                  19 hours ago

                  Ahh the old “do you research” line.

                  Yeah I did, and the facts don’t support your point. Maybe do some actual research instead of typing what you want to see in Google and cherry picking, but I know that’s too much to ask from you.

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                    19 hours ago

                    Oh so birthrate isn’t going down in developed countries?