It will be open source, end to end encrypted using Signal’s double ratchet encryption protocol, and he plans to make it easy for fediverse platforms to integrate it. The beta will release later this month.

He’s also the creator of https://fedidb.org btw

  • @[email protected]
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    10911 months ago

    I just saw this on Mastodon and was about to post it here. 😄

    Pretty cool idea. Though I’m not looking forward to trying to convince my friends to switch to yet another new platform. 😂

    • NixOP
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      9111 months ago

      Im mainly looking forward to it replacing the “DMs” of mastodon and lemmy.

      • @[email protected]
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        6011 months ago

        I’ve not been on either platform long enough to use the DMs, but this is a good point.

        After all, DMs aren’t actually private on either platform, as far as I’m aware.

        • sab
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          If they’re not end to end encrypted, your messages are not actually private on any platform.

          It’s a bit more obvious in the Fediverse than elsewhere, as direct messages are generally stored on two separate servers (sender and receiver). Furthermore each server tends to be smaller: if Zuckerberg decides to go through people’s DMs it’s unlikely to affect any particular Facebook user, but if the owner of a Mastodon instance does the same it’s small enough that she could actually get an overview. It’s mostly a false sense of security embedded in larger services, but people are all about having a false sense of security.

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            Like anything, depends on the threat model. Private from your little sister? Probably. Private from your boss, at least in the next few months prior to them being leaked? Also probably. Private enough?

            That’s to some extent a question that can only be answered individually, as everyone’s threat models differ. I suppose this fact (everyone having differing threat models) is one of the reasons that so many arguments occur over security.

            • sab
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              511 months ago

              In the end any successful chat service is going to be used by horny teenagers sharing nudes with each other, which is honestly for me better reason than any state secret why all communications should be end to end encrypted at all times. I don’t trust Zuckerberg or Musk with that, or any other third party for that matter.

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          711 months ago

          DMs aren’t actually private on either platform, as far as I’m aware.

          “Private” is not really a binary concept.

          They’re “private” in the sense that no one can see them other than the participants and the server admin (if they really wanted to).

          They’re not private in the sense that they can be hacked and leaked, or subpoenaed.

      • OverfedRaccoon 🦝
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        1411 months ago

        Yep. That was my first thought - how everyone says to use Matrix rather than Lemmy DMs for anything sensitive. This will be fantastic.

      • @Wats0ns
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        411 months ago

        TIL you can DM on lemmy

    • U de Recife
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      111 months ago

      Right now I just think about me and how I’ll use it. I’m eager to try this messaging app to have a way of being reachable by like-minded people.

      To put it differently, I don’t want to be a slave of others’ choices. I know the network effect is real and that I’m powerless to break it. So I’ll just change my attitude, and embrace this wave. Who knows what will happen? And in the meanwhile, I’ll have fun using what to me seems right.