• Hyperreality
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    1111 months ago

    the huge number of people who dislike both candidates don’t feel like they have to make a decision yet.

    If you look at actual polls, you’ll find the number of undecided voters is surprisingly low.

    Eg. https://emersoncollegepolling.com/michigan-2024-trump-and-biden-on-course-for-tight-rematch/

    An august 1-2 poll of Michigan voters, 44% Trump, 44% biden, 8% other, just 5% undecided. It’s unlikely they’ll all split Biden, and even they disproportionately did, a Trump win would still be well within the margin of error.

    Biden isn’t an unknown quantity. Trump isn’t an unknown quantity. Voters know what they stand for by now, they know what they’ll be like as president. And yet it’s still close.

    Let’s put it this way, I admire your optimism if you assume Biden will win easily.

    • @[email protected]
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      111 months ago

      We will know soon enough. I was right when I said that there wouldn’t be a “red wave” during the midterms, in spite of what the polls said, and I’m positive that I am right when I say that the polls aren’t giving us a clear picture of what to expect of a third Trump presidential campaign.

      Again, what I think we’re seeing in the polls reflects a dislike for both candidates, but not a dislike that’s evenly distributed or felt with the same degree of vehemence.

      Teasing out that difference is difficult using traditional polling methods, but it becomes obvious when one looks at how many Americans find Trump objectively abhorrent.

      My prediction is that Biden defeats Trump handily, not in a landslide, but convincingly enough to permanently show Trump the door.

      I may be wrong. We will see.

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        11 months ago

        I was right when I said that there wouldn’t be a “red wave” during the midterms, in spite of what the polls said

        The polls didn’t say there would be a red wave. Aggregated polling suggested there was a 42% chance the democrats won at least the house.

        https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/

        Same thing happened in 2016, when IRC polling suggested Trump had something like a 1/3 chance of winning, but media painted a Clinton win being a certainty.

        Be more wary of how the media reports on polling.