• @merc
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    011 months ago

    It’s never the point. That’s just lazy reasoning.

    • @[email protected]
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      211 months ago

      Really? Not for anti-trans laws, anti-immigrant laws, and laws that specifically target medically necessary abortions? Of course it’s the point. If looking at the laws they vote for isn’t good enough, all you have to do is talk to a few conservatives to figure out they’re hateful, cruel people.

      • @merc
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        111 months ago

        You may see them as hateful and cruel people, but that’s not how they see themselves. They would have to see themselves as cruel for cruelty to be the point. The fact that you think it’s the point means that you’re unwilling or unable to actually understand their point of view.

        You may disagree with it, but it’s not about “cruelty”, and pretending it is just shows your personal limitations.

        • @[email protected]
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          111 months ago

          If course they don’t see themselves as hateful. But they have no qualms about using cruelty to enforce their idea of the proper social order. If you want to be very literal, the cruelty is the means to an end and not an end in itself, but when they use cruelty as a first resort to enforce rules to designed to keep undesirable people in their place, I see it as a distinction without a difference.

          • @merc
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            111 months ago

            But they have no qualms about using cruelty to enforce their idea

            So, you agree that cruelty isn’t the point?

              • @merc
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                111 months ago

                You seem to be saying the opposite:

                The cruelty isn’t the only point behind every conservative position, but it’s the only point of enough of them