You don’t hang out in women’s spaces a lot then. The amount of times a conversation about women’s issues in women’s spaces turn into “what about men??!!” is staggering. It’s hardly surprising the opposite would happen.
So shutting down discussions about women’s issues to put a focus on men is OK, but the reverse is not?
It is absolutely important for men to talk about their issues, we do face a lot of issues brought on by a stupid stereotype of what masculinity is supposed to be. We’re not helping anyone by silencing them though, nor do we help ourselves by pushing our cause over those of others.
So, because this shitty thing happens to one gender you think “let’s subject the other gender to that too” Because in your eyes the world would be better if the problems are doubled.
You don’t hang out in women’s spaces a lot then. The amount of times a conversation about women’s issues in women’s spaces turn into “what about men??!!” is staggering. It’s hardly surprising the opposite would happen.
I don’t see that as a weakness, wish more men would do it the other way around as well.
i wish more men would talk to other men about their issues in general.
Yep
So shutting down discussions about women’s issues to put a focus on men is OK, but the reverse is not?
It is absolutely important for men to talk about their issues, we do face a lot of issues brought on by a stupid stereotype of what masculinity is supposed to be. We’re not helping anyone by silencing them though, nor do we help ourselves by pushing our cause over those of others.
My message eli5:
Derailing whataboutism = Stupid
Caring about other people’s issues while talking about yours = Good
So, because this shitty thing happens to one gender you think “let’s subject the other gender to that too” Because in your eyes the world would be better if the problems are doubled.