A new federal ruling states human authorship remains an “essential part of a valid copyright claim”

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    11 months ago

    I wonder to what degree a human would have to be involved? Like if an AI generated the background and you painted on top of it would that be enough. If so, how much would you need to modify the generated output for it to be considered human authored, just changing the colours, some editing/blurring/cropping. Will be interested to see if this gets clarified.

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      411 months ago

      At that point, what is the point? These creative AI are being pushed to replace workers, not work with them. If you have to pay for the AI, and pay people, why not just save the money and use people?

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        I guess for the same reason you pay for computers but still staff. It’s a force multiplier. I think we are still a bit of a ways off from total replacement but the force multiplier effect is something that can happen right now with current capabilities.

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          Perhaps, but if workers know that so much of the work is being done by AI, I would think they would push for higher compensation since the money would otherwise go straight to the top.

          Granted that sort of bullshit has been going on since man invented money. But I think this might be the change where people finally realize how greedy people at the top really are.

          • Pseu
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            Workers will try, and some will win but many will lose. The company switching to AI assisted work is already going to be laying off a sizable portion of their workforce. If anything wages are going to go down due to the productivity gains as hiring will be easier.

            Now if workers have a strong and useful union, they might have the leverage to negotiate favorable terms. But without that, the benefits of technological capital does not go to the workers.

          • @Aurenkin
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            I hope that’s how it works out. I guess it will depend on how the balance of power is set up between workers and employers in your region and profession. In practice I’m worried that it won’t work out well for most of us.

            The rich folks still need everyone earning money though otherwise nobody will buy their stuff so hopefully some kind of solution is reached that can benefit everyone.

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              To be fair, if we could achieve a fully autonomous robotic workforce (read: roboslaves) that can do everything a human can do, it would go one of two ways:

              1. Everyone benefits from the reduction in labor needs and humanity works toward a post scarcity future

              2. The wealthy hoard the workforce, and keep everyone else under their boot.

              Which do you think would be more likely?

      • Whiskey Pickle
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        As a designer, there is a limited purpose to use generative graphics as assets in a composition for various purposes. I might want to generate a cloud background, or perhaps a small object to use here or there. Certainly not an entire composition, because they always come out bizarre or warped, or having some sort of weird hallucination in them. But generative AI can create, for example, a flower, or a building to be used in background, or to cover up an empty space. Once you place that item, then I would have to go in and touch it up a bit to make it look like it fits and adjust the lighting and fix any weird quirks that might have, but it’s a lot better than having to have a photographer go out and take a photo of it or to pay for a stock photo of it and license that plus every problem that comes with that.

        So generative AI tools in Photoshop, for example, can end up saving a lot of time and effort and money for licensing stock photos, especially when I only need a portion of it, but it doesn’t comprise but a small portion of an entire composition. 

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      You need to exert creative control over the product. If you created an appropriate image for the background, that would probably be enough. If you slapped the same decal on everything produced by an AI, that would probably not be enough.

      Remember, AI generated work is in the public domain. So your question is identical to “Can I take a public domain work and alter it sufficiently to claim copyright on the product?”. The answer is yes, provided you make sufficient changes.

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        111 months ago

        Remember, AI generated work is in the public domain.

        That hasn’t been determined yet. A human prompt used by the AI to generate content might be enough to grant copyright. This case is about autonomous AI generated content.

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          A prompt is not sufficient, in fact some image copyrights were revoked from Kristina Kashtanova when it was revealed that her involvement in generating the images was limited to providing AI prompts.

          She was only allowed to keep copyrights for work with more active involvement, namely text and layout.