Meta post I’ve decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn’t use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn’t know the origin of the term ‘ricing’ until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it’s from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

  • Cris
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    I kinda thought this conversation would eventually happen. I have mixed feelings on the subject but am generally inclined not to use the term myself as I find it distasteful. But I think there’s an important consideration for those who’d like to discontinue the term rice in this community: what language would we like to use instead? Specifically a good noun for referring to a given setup we’ve made. In therapy they teach you that stopping a behavior is a very hard thing to accomplish, and that instead you should always try to replace a behavior- I believe that idea is very relevant here

    I’d be curious to hear people’s thoughts on what they’d like to use instead

    • NormalC [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1811 months ago

      You can also use “cooking” or a “dish” to describe a user submission. Then people can use food-related diction to comment on each other’s works. It’s just a suggestion, but it proves that there are solutions.

    • temptest [any]
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      I’m not active in the community these days but I might as well through some suggestions in the mix:

      • splash (like a splash of paint)
      • face
      • tweek
      • dec (like decorate, or decked out) or deq
      • @[email protected]
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        I like the sound of decking, makes me think of the people who do cool mods on their steam deck!

        • Cris
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          810 months ago

          Or the sweet ass cyberdecks people build

        • @[email protected]
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          “Decking” brought to mind someone punching someone else at first lol

          Still, I’m still firmly on Team Toast NGL (context: someone here suggested the new term be toast, just because)

      • @[email protected]
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        I think we should call it “syrup”

        “That’s some sweet sway syrup”, or “that gnome syrup is stallman af”

        • Cris
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          Lol, syrup would definitely be fun

          • @[email protected]
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            Is anyone really complaining, or just afraid?

            There is a difference between “I am not comfortable help me” and “you need to do as I say”.

            Being open to other points of view is only good right?

            And yet that is not the vibe, at all. I have only said … you do you. White knighting and telling others they are doing it wrong suppresses what should be a chill creative club.

            • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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              1610 months ago

              Is anyone really complaining

              Yes. The op is bothered by the use of casual racism. Many people in this thread are saying that racism bothers them. Does racism not bother you?

              Being open to other points of view is only good right?

              No some points of view are not worth considering. Bigotry and racism, just like the viewpoint that its good to eat your own excrement, are view points of no value.

              White knighting and telling others they are doing it wrong suppresses what should be a chill creative club.

              Wanting to not be exposed to racism and racist slurs is not white knighting. Just because this specific racial slur doesn’t target me doesn’t mean I am unaffected by it. It is called empathy. Even if I was a sociopath I would be against all racism because I don’t like to experience racism happening to me. I would be against the racist term “Ricer” because I don’t want to normalize any racially slur because I may be the next target.

              Racists and offensive language are suppressive and any community supporting those things is not chill.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                Curious they used the term “white knighting” because that term is forever tainted by gamergate chuds using it to disparage or dismiss anyone calling out misogyny and has a direct lineage to the term SJW. 🤔

              • @[email protected]
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                I am not looking to open your closed mode of thought. However, I’m afraid I have to disagree that rice is racist. I have experienced actual racism; not imaginary, not potential, but real and dangerous, the full-throated embodiment of human hate. It is awful and traumatic.

                Some folks making cool desktop customizations and calling it rice as a cyberpunk / counter-cultural hacker term is neither racist nor awful.

                Flip-side, this entire thread makes rice even cooler, now that there is a segment of people who have said “booo”, it will be all but entrenched.

                Personally, I like /c/unixporn/“Mah Desktop $ Shot”

                • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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                  1210 months ago

                  “I refuse to change my offensive language despite people telling me it is offensive. I think I am cool because I am using abusive language to make people feel uncomfortable. I am proud of being exclusionary and my self worth is tied to being offensive to others.”

    • @[email protected]
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      What about just “Dots” or “Dotfiles”, after all these are the main components that we share or seek in these posts.

      Or “Toast”, not gonna expand on that I just like how it sounds funny.

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      Since Linus is Finnish, I’d propose we use “bread/bakers/baking” instead.