Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would’ve known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn’t the only of Ukrainian’s western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it’s also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.
I don’t give an F about Russia. China could swallow it tomorrow. This enemy that liberals have invented doesn’t exist. You make everything a binary choice. Russia or NATO. China or America. The world is more complicated, but you’re not equipped to understand that.
I’ve read those people have a thought called “critical support” where they’re critical against NATO but it’s the only logical lifeline for Ukraine and Europe to end the war some day and prevent similar situations.
Socialists cannot support NATO. Despite what Vaush says.
The “critical support” theory is based on the assumption that nations wouldn’t come to Ukraine’s aid if NATO didn’t exist. Some believe that America and by extension NATO, created the conditions that preceded the conflict. Capitalism tends to create problems that it then has to solve. There was no salient reason for NATO to continue its existence after the fall of the Soviet Union, other than to maintain US hegemony.
Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would’ve known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn’t the only of Ukrainian’s western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it’s also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.
The truth will never be reductionist.
ie- capitalist imperialism.
Such a bog-standard whataboutism that I couldn’t even be bothered to roll my eyes anymore. Thanks for showing your true colors.
Your welcome. My colors are red and black.
Those colours doesn’t seem to go all the way through though. Scratch them for a moment and you will see the colours of the Russian flag appearing.
I don’t give an F about Russia. China could swallow it tomorrow. This enemy that liberals have invented doesn’t exist. You make everything a binary choice. Russia or NATO. China or America. The world is more complicated, but you’re not equipped to understand that.
Defending those colors means defending against Russia as well
Yep. I’m against all capitalist imperialism, even China’s. It’s almost like those supporting NATO aren’t really socialists.
I’ve read those people have a thought called “critical support” where they’re critical against NATO but it’s the only logical lifeline for Ukraine and Europe to end the war some day and prevent similar situations.
Personally; I guess that’s a theory, who knows 🤷
I’m gonna do my best to communicate my reasoning.
The “critical support” theory is based on the assumption that nations wouldn’t come to Ukraine’s aid if NATO didn’t exist. Some believe that America and by extension NATO, created the conditions that preceded the conflict. Capitalism tends to create problems that it then has to solve. There was no salient reason for NATO to continue its existence after the fall of the Soviet Union, other than to maintain US hegemony.