Neat. What about the aforementioned religious nutjobs? You think they’re engaged in sincere criticism of specific textual and cultural dogma? Because generally it looks like they’re just being prejudiced assholes.
No different. Their religions are all trash. Do you have one? It’s trash too. The only culture of religion is to do what you’re told and not ask questions. That’s trash.
What do you mean? That kind are vocal about their motivations and are more often than not quite brazen in their actions. To them their religion is just a vehicle for their hate. They don’t hide it. They’ve been out for years now.
There’s nothing bigoted about having equal disdain for all religions. Why are you so defensive? Sounds like you believe in something that isn’t there. If not why are you wasting your time with me? Got feelings or something?
We are specifically talking about bigots. People who are not exactly even-handed or intellectually honest in their criticism of any religion. You are saying that surely they must be open and overt in their beliefs. I counter, plainly fucking not. Quite often even mentioning Islam is just an excuse to talk shit about the middle east and anyone from the middle east.
When someone spits stereotypes about Afghanis, but uses a religious label rather than a national or cultural label - they’re just saying “Islam’s not a race!” as an excuse. They might not be saying anything about Islam. And what little they say is probably just nonsense regardless. It’s not like they care.
The root question was: do you think Islamophobia is rooted in theological disputes?
The fact you have good-faith criticism aplenty is unrelated to their bad-faith vitriol. Bad-faith abuse only works because it resembles good-faith arguments.
I’m explaining this to you because I give a shit about addressing bigotry. If you’d only recognize that prejudice when it’s brazen, loud, and sincere, you need to disabuse yourself of that comforting fiction.
Neat. What about the aforementioned religious nutjobs? You think they’re engaged in sincere criticism of specific textual and cultural dogma? Because generally it looks like they’re just being prejudiced assholes.
No different. Their religions are all trash. Do you have one? It’s trash too. The only culture of religion is to do what you’re told and not ask questions. That’s trash.
That wasn’t the question.
We know your motivations. What about those religious nutjobs?
What do you mean? That kind are vocal about their motivations and are more often than not quite brazen in their actions. To them their religion is just a vehicle for their hate. They don’t hide it. They’ve been out for years now.
‘Bigots love admitting they’re bigots,’ says someone confused.
Fool belives someone is watching over them say an idiot who refuses to grow up.
I’m talking about what you said, and you’re making shit up about me as a person.
There’s nothing bigoted about having equal disdain for all religions. Why are you so defensive? Sounds like you believe in something that isn’t there. If not why are you wasting your time with me? Got feelings or something?
We are specifically talking about bigots. People who are not exactly even-handed or intellectually honest in their criticism of any religion. You are saying that surely they must be open and overt in their beliefs. I counter, plainly fucking not. Quite often even mentioning Islam is just an excuse to talk shit about the middle east and anyone from the middle east.
When someone spits stereotypes about Afghanis, but uses a religious label rather than a national or cultural label - they’re just saying “Islam’s not a race!” as an excuse. They might not be saying anything about Islam. And what little they say is probably just nonsense regardless. It’s not like they care.
The root question was: do you think Islamophobia is rooted in theological disputes?
The fact you have good-faith criticism aplenty is unrelated to their bad-faith vitriol. Bad-faith abuse only works because it resembles good-faith arguments.
I’m explaining this to you because I give a shit about addressing bigotry. If you’d only recognize that prejudice when it’s brazen, loud, and sincere, you need to disabuse yourself of that comforting fiction.
What? They’re cult members and should be treated as such