• mindbleach
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    1 year ago

    That world is a fantasy. It’s not the one we live in, and it won’t happen.

    ISPs are the wrong level at which to expect that kind of control. See abundant prior explanations. Looking straight at an argument and going “nuh-uh” doesn’t mean there was no argument. Stop lying to me about my own comments.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not the one we live in

      Obviously not, which is why I described it as “in an ideal world”.

      It’s like you’re saying “supermarkets can’t carry umbrellas, those aren’t food products!” and supermarkets start carrying umbrellas, people are happy and you remain steadfast in your denial that that’s a possible thing that could be good.

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        1 year ago

        The internet carries everything, and you’re the one who’s mad about that. You want some of it to disappear from your experience - as dictated by the company whose entire job is connecting you to the whole-ass internet - and to reconcile the inherent contradiction, you invent an infinite variety of providers, available to everyone everywhere, implicitly with no material difference in cost or performance.

        The answer is no.

        That’s not how markets work.

        Any practical approximation is a nightmare of conflicting incentives that would immediately collapse. Again. Because similar rubber-room fake-internet companies used to exist, and have tried popping up again, and it’s not oligopoly that kills them. It’s the impossibility of pleasing all the people all the time.

        Just install Net Nanny and promote network neutrality. God damn.

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          1 year ago

          The internet carries everything

          And some people want their ISPs not to carry some things. For example, maybe they think their grocery stores shouldn’t carry hard-core pornography.

          Wouldn’t it be better if people who wanted no filters could choose that option, and people who didn’t could choose a filtered option?

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            1 year ago

            And some people want their ISPs not to carry some things.

            Those people are confused.

            Soup sandwich.

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              1 year ago

              They’re not confused, they know what they want. You’re confused because you think there’s a problem if they get what they want.

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                1 year ago

                Lots of people want things that can’t work.

                Soup. Sandwich.

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                  1 year ago

                  And this is something that can work, you just like sticking your fingers in your ears and going “la la la la” instead of admitting it.

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                    1 year ago

                    Oh sorry, am I the one making glib assertions, while you explain yourself? No. I’m the one apparently baited into rubbing your nose in what a bad idea this is. The first time you didn’t even acknowledge it was there.

                    Say something more than “yes huh” or get the fuck out of my inbox.