• @JohnDClay
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    10 months ago

    Indeed. Simping for Russia and China (and even North Korea, wow) have greatly determental effects to democracy, public discourse, and policy. So I was hoping to change your minds or at least figure out how you think.

      • @JohnDClay
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        110 months ago

        I think it is the most effective system yet devised at minimizing the immorality of the system.

        Current examples are however far from ideal.

          • @JohnDClay
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            110 months ago

            Because they’re the best we’ve got, and they have the capability to improve.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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              10 months ago

              So despite the many flaws and problems with these systems, you support them because you think they can improve? Why do you think they can improve?

              • @JohnDClay
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                110 months ago

                Because there’s been change in the past, and there is gradual positive change generally happening.

                But also because throwing out the system entirely very often leads to power hungry authoritarian groups or people taking advantage of the power vacuum. And they’re not as easily dislodged.

                  • @JohnDClay
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                    110 months ago

                    I count authoritarian mostly as little to no way for the citizens to effect policy changes. Plus their very heavy handed on controlling their population.

                    Functional liberal democracies are pretty far from that, since people have feedback, and because of that, the population isn’t ruthlessly controlled.