My primary argument is that they post hateful content and covid conspiracies and it is irresponsible to platform this by including it in our federation. Secondly we already got rid of lemmygrad. Thirdly, there’s little to be lost in the defederation given the type of stuff being posted over there. Do as thou wilt

Aye and nays pls

Edit: putting the screencaps I posted below here for clarity

I should probably put a content warning so

CW: homophobia, transphobia, and just being a shithead.

Edit 2: let’s try not to downvote people just saying nay. Unless they are making bad faith arguments we should respect their opinions even if we disagree.

Edit 3: Imma be real with y’all, this has been a real shitshow. We gotta work out some kinda single voting infrastructure because the ayes and Nays isn’t efficient at all.

  • Kecessa
    125·
    2 years ago

    They’re not right wing posts they’re alt-right posts, there’s a difference there and it’s a major one and the best way to keep that movement from spreading is to not let people be in contact with it.

    • aspseka
      1310·
      2 years ago

      Please don’t try to protect people from opinions. Eventually they find out and feel lied to.

      • Hagarashi8
        103·
        2 years ago

        They are not just sharing opinions. It’s hate against minorities. As overused it may sound, this is one of times when it’s really hate and not just irony.

        • aspseka
          107·
          2 years ago

          Every opinion might sound as ideological or hateful or aggressive or oppressive by some… Of course, everyone is biased about what they deem acceptable.

          Totally get that these posts offend people - and that maybe that was the intention. On the other hand, poorly rationed opions from another place of the spectrum offend the far-right or the far-left…

          • Hagarashi8
            92·
            2 years ago

            If it would be nice if it would be just one or two unintentional offending posts, but there’s a lot of examples even in the post, where it’s clear that they want to offend people, and i would like to keep this place away from intentionally offending content.

            • Quacksalber
              84·
              2 years ago

              If you want to be protected from hateful people, use beehaw. I came to ShitJustWorks specifically because they don’t block instances at a whim.

              • Hagarashi8
                102·
                2 years ago

                This instance is not very different for lemmygrad in terms of how hateful they are and lemmygrad is defederated, so see no reason why this one shouldn’t be defederated.

                • mnemonicmonkeys
                  41·
                  1 year ago

                  From what I understand, Lemmygrad has been widely defederated because their members tend to troll and brigade other instances. Apart from 1 user earlier today, I have yet to see evidence that’s happening with exploding-heads (yet)

                  • Kecessa
                    41·
                    1 year ago

                    They were defederated because The Dude decided to make it so at inception and they never gave a real explanation as to why, so it’s not a very good example.

      • Kecessa
        73·
        2 years ago

        There’s a difference between opinions based on facts and opinions people pretend are based on facts like you see on the extremes. Funny you should say “people will feel lied to” when both the alt-right and tankies lie to argue.

        • aspseka
          53·
          2 years ago

          Totally concur. But let’s face it, you cannot make these “arguments” go aways by sweeping them under the carpet. They exist. People learned how to to deal with them. Bluny put: If you know bs arguments all along they don’t catch you by surprise and “convince” you.