Social media seems to be laughing its ass off about this tragedy, is it because the folks at burning man are perceived as frivolous hippies or something? Everyone I’ve ever met who was a regular burning man attendee has been a solid human being with strong morals, personally and financially responsible, a career. Upstanding members of society for sure. I guess all some people know is the sensationalized drugs and sex. A person died. This is a tragedy for an event that brings positivity into the world. Kind of annoyed.

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    LOL you’re really running with this line of thinking. Might people who plan to go to a week-long strenuous event in the desert lead to a sample that has some selection bias? For instance, selecting out the entirety of the demographic that is currently hospitalized, currently debilitatingly ill?

    In which cause you should compare mortality rates with another group like that. Not the entire rest of the age demographic (which has all those sick people you selected out).

    I don’t really care either way, just found this argument kind of hilarious.

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      You’ve got people of all ages there and the average death per year at burning man seems to be pretty close to one, some years even had three, some years had multiple suicides, some years had people die outside the premise from things that happened at the event…

      Again, nothing unusual about one person dying out of a crowd 70k during a week. You can be in the best shape of your life and die of aneurysm!

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        Do you have any hospitalized people there? Because the USA has 919,649 hospital beds. Anyone needing assisted living? Because the US has 810,000 people in assisted living. Now the 70,000 number doesn’t seem so big eh?

        My point is that ‘people capable of going to an event’ is already a helluva selection, especially when you compare it to the population that includes all those sick people.

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          Just suicides and unintentional injuries are enough to make it pretty close to 1/week/70k.

          Again, I provided sources in another comment, you’re just ignoring the stats and the history of the event because it doesn’t fit with what you want the event to be 🤷

          Heck, we don’t even know this year’s cause of death, might as well be a suicide or an overdose and have nothing to do with the weather!

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            Haha I don’t care so much about burning man as much as this method you have.

            So by your math, Somewhere like disney with 50k visitors a day is still remarkably safe as long as less than 10 people a day die there?

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              I used to work in a casino where we would get 6k visitors a day on average and we had two to three deaths a year. Just because most clients don’t realize it happens doesn’t mean it doesn’t. Same for Disney, some people die on the premise, some people die when they’ve reached the hospital, but yes, when you have that many people coming every day that shit does happen. Considering its size, Disney has medical staff on the premise (heck, we had medical staff for the 1500 employees and our clients) and they might even have their own ambulance service so as to not have to wait to ship people to the hospital.

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                I like how you chose casino, establishments known to especially attract the 85+ cohort, which I didn’t even include in my 10 a day disney # to be nice. How many 85+ you think they got at burning man?

                Do you think 10 people a day die at a single disney park behind the scenes? You’re dying on this hill?

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                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_at_Walt_Disney_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_at_Disneyland_Resort

                  sorry but theme park accidents are fascinating to me.

                  You should really see the death numbers at the Six Flags parks though. Those places are like a god damn death trap for humans. It’s insane how many people get injured or just die on rides.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_at_Six_Flags_parks

                  edit cause I hit enter too soon

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                    same, I assume you have heard of / watched the train wreck that was Action Park?

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                  Fucking hell mate, I posted the stats for 2019 and 2021, go check them, even people 35-44 are at 200 death/100k/year, 130 deaths for those 25-34, 70 deaths for those 15-24, do you think they’re all bedridden or something?

                  Are your feelings the hill you are willing to die on or you’re able to accept that CDC’s stats might be closer to the truth than what you feel is right?

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                    fucking hell mate, do you think selection bias is a fictional concept inapplicable to your calculations or are you going to continue to pretend that taking an entire countries population and comparing it to any sliver of the country 1:1 doesn’t fail basic representativeness analysis?