• dandi8@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        No one is cheering for the war, no matter how many times you say it.

        People may cheer for Ukrainian independence, or for their victories, but no one wants the war to continue. The war can end today, if only Russia decides to give back all the land they took by force, including Crimea.

        You’re building a strawman.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          Ukraine doesn’t have any independence, no matter how many times you say it. Ukraine has a puppet regime that’s throwing the people of Ukraine into a meat grinder so that US can fight a proxy war with Russia. Meanwhile the only straw man here is the whole RuSsIA CaN JuSt GivE AlL ThE LaND BacK as if that’s a realistic scenario. Russia is winning this war, and the west is losing. There is no situation where Russia just packs up and goes home now. The only question is how many people are going to die before this war ends and whether there is an Ukraine left at the end of it.

          Anybody who supports continuation of this war is absolutely cheering for continued death of people of Ukraine and the destruction of their country.

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            1 year ago

            Oh, Russia is winning this war? Is that why it didn’t end in their estimated 3 days? Is that why Prigozhin marched on the Kremlin? Is that why they’re asking North Korea for weapons now?

            So much winning.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Imagine looking at what’s happening with Ukraine’s offensive and still not being able to understand that Russia is winning the war.

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                Whatever happens next, Russia has already lost this war. Strategically, they lost it a year ago, when they failed to take Kyiv and overthrow the “Nazi regime”. You can keep moving goalposts all you like, it doesn’t change the facts.

                And all it cost them was half their armoured vehicles, half their airforce (including strategic bombers LOL), their economy, their principal export partners, their international standing and influence, their internal stability, etc…

                I expect before long there will be civil war when republics decide to overthrow their colonial masters.

                Absolute legends, these Russians.