As part of his Labor Day message to workers in the United States, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday re-upped his call for the establishment of a 20% cut to the workweek with no loss in pay—an idea he said is “not radical” given the enormous productivity gains over recent decades that have resulted in massive profits for corporations but scraps for employees and the working class.

“It’s time for a 32-hour workweek with no loss in pay,” Sanders wrote in a Guardian op-ed as he cited a 480% increase in worker productivity since the 40-hour workweek was first established in 1940.

“It’s time,” he continued, “that working families were able to take advantage of the increased productivity that new technologies provide so that they can enjoy more leisure time, family time, educational and cultural opportunities—and less stress.”

  • @JohnDClay
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    -210 months ago

    Even 32 hours a week with a proportional decrease in pay would be a huge improvement.

    • @[email protected]
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      3010 months ago

      You shouldn’t have to take a cut in pay for this. Productivity has increased and the benefits of the productivity increase has only gone to the ultra wealthy.

      • @JohnDClay
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        -710 months ago

        But negotiating only for higher wages per hour and lower hours as a package deal could make it harder to get either. It probably depends employer to employer, but doing both at the same time would be hard to make them do.

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          1410 months ago

          Which is why we need to build class solidarity, unions, and strike. A hundred years ago, people fought for everything they could get. They didn’t say “safe working conditions or a 40h work week.” They said, “we want all we can get.”

          • @JohnDClay
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            -510 months ago

            Yes that’d be good. But I still don’t see the advantage of only talking about these as a package deal.

              • @JohnDClay
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                010 months ago

                How does putting these as separate line items in negations compromise the position?

                • @[email protected]
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                  410 months ago

                  Because it’s easier to pick them apart separately. Divide and conquer is the oldest trick in the book.

      • @JohnDClay
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        -210 months ago

        Yeah not for everyone. I’m thinking higher paying areas like technology and programming where pay is high but people are getting really burned out.

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          610 months ago

          I’m a programmer, and it’s very different from hourly work. Realistically, any programmer is coding for like 1-2 hours a day. There are meetings so we understand the problem we have to solve, and a lot of time thinking through the problems and architecture solutions. We’re not sitting there typing for 8 hours a day, or at least those are the ones getting burned out. Realistically I’m working like 30 hours a week already, with only 10 hours being real coding, the rest being talking, researching, learning, and pondering. Maybe I’m lucky I work somewhere that that stuff isn’t seen as slacking.

          • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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            110 months ago

            Ugh. I once did some independent programming and the guy insisted I do it in front of him because it involved his proprietary data. So much griping about the time I spent looking at documentation or referring to coding assistance sites like Stack Overflow. I quit on day two.

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          210 months ago

          Yeah, I can see in those specific situations. Cost of living tends to be high in areas with a lot of technology jobs though so I don’t know.

          I’m not those people so I can’t speak for them.

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      210 months ago

      Honestly as a mid-career IT person, I’d take a 30-40% cut for that extra day without a second of hesitation.