I know of someone who says they listen to Joe Rogan podcasts (political I assume) but I don’t know what this means or what the connotations are. Both this person and I live in east asia.

    • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      223·
      1 year ago

      You make it sound like he just uses the Socratic method to give weirdos the rope they need to hang themselves. And maybe that’s true for a sophisticated audience who already come in with solid critical things skills in place. When they don’t, as is often the case for his under-25 audience who are still coming up, the appearance is that he treats them as legitimate - the same as he treats NDGT.

        • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          204·
          1 year ago

          OMG now you sound like him. “They want to silence this!”

          I said nothing about disallowing discussion. Or any other action that should be taken. We have someone here asking what’s up with JRE and I’m telling them. Are you trying to silence me!!! You want to censor this!!!

          But more seriously:

          Is it possible for media to spread disinformation? Can that be dangerous?

          These are unambiguous “yes” and “yes” answers. And that’s what happens with this show. Period.

            • scarabic@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              1 year ago

              One way I celebrate his great heights is by treating him as the major media source he is. You want to have it both ways: celebrate his massive success but treat him like just some jackass talking about conspiracies. #unclebenwasright

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          92·
          1 year ago

          Dude, you’re misunderstanding. No one is saying the ideas can’t be discussed. People are saying he’s irresponsible for giving his platform to these people without doing his due diligence to inform the audience when they lie or say things that just aren’t true. It’s his platform and his responsibility to not send the information out in a vacuum that gives it space to spread without informing people of its (il)legitimacy.

          Check out ONRAC for what I’d say is a pretty responsible way to discuss fringe (or just plain wrong) ideas.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      72·
      1 year ago

      I listen to Oh No Ross and Carrie frequently, and it does a similar thing except they actually do research and make sure to inform the listener about what they say that’s wrong, misconstrued, or a lie. They look into the background of the people and their history and a whole lot of detail into what they’re pushing. They don’t just give them a platform that doesn’t push back. It’s irresponsible to do otherwise.