• @JohnDClay
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    119 months ago

    If there’s absolutely nothing I can do to convince you, it isn’t a logical argument you’re going with. It’s a philosophical or emotional one. Logical evidence based arguments would change if compelling contrary evidence was provided.

      • @JohnDClay
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        79 months ago

        I’m asking what that contrary evidence would look like for you.

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            9 months ago

            So no one can tell or show you anything to change your mind? Then we’re back to where we started with a philosophical or a moral position rather than a logical one.

          • @JohnDClay
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            69 months ago

            humanity’s history of dishonesty is all the proof I need for that.

            Also, history books and discussion is more about grand state actors and conquests, not the everyday kindness and selflessness. It’s usually the norm, so not noteworthy to history.

              • @JohnDClay
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                69 months ago

                But you wouldn’t learn that from history books.

                  • @JohnDClay
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                    49 months ago

                    But they don’t tell you much about human success where countries don’t go to war and genocides don’t happen. So you can’t compare effectively.