Mike Dulak grew up Catholic in Southern California, but by his teen years, he began skipping Mass and driving straight to the shore to play guitar, watch the waves and enjoy the beauty of the morning. “And it felt more spiritual than any time I set foot in a church,” he recalled.

Nothing has changed that view in the ensuing decades.

“Most religions are there to control people and get money from them,” said Dulak, now 76, of Rocheport, Missouri. He also cited sex abuse scandals in Catholic and Southern Baptist churches. “I can’t buy into that,” he said.

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    “Staying in your lane” is the exact opposite of what Christians and Muslims are explicitly ordered to do. Convert acquisition is the primary objective of both faiths.

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      The Bible says if a family member considers another religion (or you just suspect they are) it’s your duty to God to kill them before it spreads to other people in your family.

      It’s why ill never trust the people who claim they have to follow the bible literally. Either they don’t know what it says, or they’re absolute psychos.

      Edit:

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 13:6-10&version=KJV

      6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

      7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

      8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

      9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

      10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage

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        Well, I heard somewhere that it is written in the bible that those who scorn the bible will be visited by apocalypse, fire, earthquake, and flood which will obliterate your cities, but for those who believe in the bible will save themselves and find true redemption.

        And I also heard somewhere it may have also stated in the Bible that the power and the greatness of God cannot be denied. Those who reject the Path to enlightenment must be destroyed.

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        It talks to Jews in ancient Israel about gods of nations that surrounded them.

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          Oh…

          So some of it is outdated and we shouldn’t follow the bible literally?

          I already don’t, you better go tell the Christians to shut the fuck up about LGBTQ…

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            Good job on discovering dispensationalism. About LGBT, there isn’t a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn’t put in a positive light

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              About LGBT, there isn’t a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn’t put in a positive light

              It’s hard to tell what you were trying to say, but any attempt to clarify that is going to make it really easy to point out how wrong you are.

              So I don’t expect you to even try

              Btw:

              For anyone wondering what “dispensationalism” means, it’s a thing Christians invented so they can ignore the parts of the bible that they don’t agree with. While saying the parts they do believe in are the literal words of God and have to be followed.

              It’s a shitty cop out

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              About LGBT, there isn’t a single place in Bible, old or new testament where isn’t put in a positive light

              That’s just simple not true.

              In the old testament it says that all homosexuals must be killed, and in the new testament that homosexuals cannot go to heaven.

              How is that a positive light?

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      Exactly this.

      Dont forget the part about having as many children as possible and convert them too.

      There is no religion telling their servants to love their children even if they are not religious.