• Globulart@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Do you really think the best way for the world to change is adopting an all or nothing attitude?

    What improves the planet more? 1 person becoming hardcore vegan or 1000 people eating meat one day a week instead of seven?

    See the problem?

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      1 year ago

      Not at all. Random8847’s dipshit comment is just so smug and whiney.

      Every bit helps, however the corporations are really the ones we have to force to change.

      If you haven’t noticed having everybody recycle, hasn’t really done shit either. The corporations that pollute really environment cause in the majority of damage yet we’re telling regular every day people it’s their fault and they should do their part.

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        You literally told them that if they’re gonna argue animal cruelty they’d better stop eating all animal products…

        Nobody mentioned corporations until you either, for all we know 8847 might do everything you said in your comment anyway.

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        1 year ago

        A four worded comment is smug, whiney and dipshit? Man, something is really wrong with you. Get some help.

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        1 year ago

        Dude. Go back to reddit. Lemmy really doesn’t need this kind of hyper aggressive stuff. Be better.

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        Most people can tell you exactly who (other than themselves) needs to change. This includes the people who work for the corporations, do business with the corporations and invest in the corporations.

        Separately, we can each only control our own choices.

        We delegate responsibility to the people who tell us (possibly correctly) that they’re required by law to make decisions based on short term profitability.

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          1 year ago

          So what you’re essentially saying is the government needs to change the laws. Until the laws change, no one will do anything different. And since the government or essentially behold into the corporations, just not gonna happen.

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            1 year ago

            What I’m saying is that humans have free will, but have internalized concepts that tell they they’re stuck. That someone else must act.

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              Wtf is free will even? We’re chemical systems, or a metaphysical soul, that makes statistically predictable decisions based on available information as well as uncountable minor factors. If you rewind time and do everything the same, either everyone comes to the same conclusions the same way, or free will requires an aspect of chaos… And at that point you’re at predetermination - seems to me the whole idea is outdated philosophy

              But here’s the thing - statistically, people respond in predictable ways. If every time you do X, the majority will respond Y… That’s just math.

              Turns out, humans are super complex, but very predictable. And by that I mean policy is extraordinarily effective.

              Free will matters on a personal level, it disappears on a societal level

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                Each individual has a choice.

                People follow the pattern laid by others, until someone does something different.

                Those of us who focus on making the hard choices to change outcomes become tired of sheep.