• Chozo
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    -79 months ago

    a self-hosted solution that you can ensure doesn’t.

    Being self-hosted in no way, shape, or form ensures that it doesn’t spy on you. You’re still putting trust in a third-party to keep their promises. The average user lacks the know-how to audit code. Hell, the average user wouldn’t be able to figure out self-hosting in the first place.

      • Chozo
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        19 months ago

        Okay, what can the average user do to ensure this, then?

        • danhakimi
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          09 months ago

          disable your internet connection.

          that’s really it. Lots of apps find lots of ways to call home, and Google, especially, is constantly calling home from Android, so unless you’re going to, like… uninstall all but one Google app to test it in a vacuum, and then add other apps one at a time, it’s not going to work. Also, that experiment won’t work, because we already know that Google Play Services handles most of these shenanigans.

          • Chozo
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            19 months ago

            We’re talking about a service that intrinsically requires an internet connection, though.

            • danhakimi
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              -29 months ago

              yes, that’s my point, serdan is being silly, you’re right.

                • danhakimi
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                  -29 months ago

                  Many people tend to use their phones even when they’re not at home.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    29 months ago

                    You don’t want the service to create arbitrary outbound connections, but you want your device to be able to communicate with the service.

                    It’s been a while since I’ve done network stuff, but it sounds like a pretty simple textbook problem.

    • ijeffOPM
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      109 months ago

      It’s actually quite easy to see if an app is phoning home. Also easy to prevent.

      • danhakimi
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        09 months ago

        Lol, how do you prevent a Google app from phoning home without preventing all Google apps, including GPS, from accessing the internet at all?