Writing out a person’s full name/tag every time you reference them is not practical (see my previous comment), so one wouldn’t give this as reason against third person references in a serious discussion.
If the genesis of the entire issue with chosen pronouns is about basic respect, personal convinience can take a back seat and we can adress a person by name.
But then again, I’m often viewed as petty in my personal peeves.
Better to just not talk about someone and instead just talk with the person.
Really think hard about what you are saying. Next time you have a conversation, try mentioning no one else except the person you are talking to and yourself.
It’s been probably very clear by this point that English is not my native language but I can, with a degree of effort, have a conversation about a third person by naming said individual and use “person”, “individual” and other similar terms to refer to the absent third party without need to resort to pronouns.
It takes some effort, the end result is a bit terse in english, but I can make it work.
But, to repeat myself, better to not talk about someone else but instead talk with said person.
Pronouns are there to make conversation easier and more straight forward. You can avoid using them, it’s just uselessly silly to do so.
It’s normal to refer to someone else during conversation, even essential. Why should we be avoiding this behavior as to eliminate pronouns in our speech? Whats the reasoning? Pronouns are a completely normal and essential part of our language, I’m having trouble understanding why you want to cleave the pool of potential conversation subjects to avoid them?
Remember that back there I specifically stated that I prefer having people talking with me rather than about me?
That’s pretty much it. I dislike talking about others. I have full capacity and interest to talk about topics or specific subjects but I make my best effort to abstain from talking about others.
And I’m happy as it is. I feel no need to justify myself for being as I am and I take no ill will against those who dislike or don’t understand why I act in the fashion I do.
I do not need to take part in every conversation in the world, be it personally or by proxy. And even if someone feels the deep need to - and I can’t fathom why would that happen - quote me, it/he/she/they are not necessary to do so.
All of this stemmed from me making a remark about myself - a fully self contained issue - and look where we find ourselves now. And with no need for pronouns.
I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you mean in relation to what I said.
Were talking pronouns as part of the sign up process.
@[email protected] says that @[email protected] would rather like to be tagged and be part of the conversation, instead of having people talk behind @[email protected]’s back.
It’s likely meant to be seen as a witty remark, and not a statement. :)
Why is being witty the default stance, instead of an honest statement?
Because what you said doesn’t make any sense if you were being serious.
Writing out a person’s full name/tag every time you reference them is not practical (see my previous comment), so one wouldn’t give this as reason against third person references in a serious discussion.
So it’s easier to say thoim/shlu instead of ekky?
If the genesis of the entire issue with chosen pronouns is about basic respect, personal convinience can take a back seat and we can adress a person by name.
But then again, I’m often viewed as petty in my personal peeves.
Better to just not talk about someone and instead just talk with the person.
Really think hard about what you are saying. Next time you have a conversation, try mentioning no one else except the person you are talking to and yourself.
Oh, don’t temp me.
It’s been probably very clear by this point that English is not my native language but I can, with a degree of effort, have a conversation about a third person by naming said individual and use “person”, “individual” and other similar terms to refer to the absent third party without need to resort to pronouns.
It takes some effort, the end result is a bit terse in english, but I can make it work.
But, to repeat myself, better to not talk about someone else but instead talk with said person.
Petty. But so satisfying.
Pronouns are there to make conversation easier and more straight forward. You can avoid using them, it’s just uselessly silly to do so.
It’s normal to refer to someone else during conversation, even essential. Why should we be avoiding this behavior as to eliminate pronouns in our speech? Whats the reasoning? Pronouns are a completely normal and essential part of our language, I’m having trouble understanding why you want to cleave the pool of potential conversation subjects to avoid them?
Remember that back there I specifically stated that I prefer having people talking with me rather than about me?
That’s pretty much it. I dislike talking about others. I have full capacity and interest to talk about topics or specific subjects but I make my best effort to abstain from talking about others.
And I’m happy as it is. I feel no need to justify myself for being as I am and I take no ill will against those who dislike or don’t understand why I act in the fashion I do.
I do not need to take part in every conversation in the world, be it personally or by proxy. And even if someone feels the deep need to - and I can’t fathom why would that happen - quote me, it/he/she/they are not necessary to do so.
All of this stemmed from me making a remark about myself - a fully self contained issue - and look where we find ourselves now. And with no need for pronouns.
Id rather you just stop talking altogether