Compromise is difficult because when negotiating with someone who wants you dead, how do you meet them halfway ?
And it’s coincidental that Israeli territory keeps expanding, with settlements and music festivals right on the creeping border. And starvation has nothing to do with their blockade. And no schools or hospitals were shattered into gravel ‘because Hamas was there’ - they only do that to people’s homes.
Incorrect about the Israeli territory expansion - Gaza borders have not changed since 2005 at least. That is definitely an huge issue of contention in the west bank (I totally agree that Israel is out of line there, although many of the activities are in the gray area due to various legal issues complicating the land ownership definitions). The “creeping” settlements have all been there (same location and size) for 50 years or more. For example, Re’em (the kibbutz that hosted the music festival) was founded in 1949.
And it’s well documented that Hamas fires rockets from public buildings:
And yet another genius thinks it’s gotta be either/or. You can blame them both. Two war crimes don’t make a right. Firing rockets is bad, actually - but so is blowing up the entire god-damn apartment building, because someone fired rockets from it.
This should not have to be explained to any sane adult.
You could not miss the point harder if you tried. You are not capable. You’d have to care what words mean, instead of just going ‘oh yeah well you must be excusing other bad thing!’ No, genius. I am explaining how the Israeli side is also pretty goddamn far from innocent.
Who gives a fuck whose land it’s on? They’re civilians, Hamas has NO reason or justification for attacking a music festival it holds no military or strategic value. Those civilians didn’t bomb Palestinians. They aren’t the people pushing expansion. They’re just fucking civilians, and if you’re going to say one side killing civilians, even accidentally, is bad, you HAVE to condemn the other side for willingly attacking a civilian gathering.
Very valuable addition to the conversation, call out a bit in a post made still groggy from waking up instead of actually addressing the argument. GOTTEEEEEEM I fuckin guess.
Get back to me when you want to address the point.
If you didn’t read what you’re replying to, in the first place, how would more words help?
You’d have to care what words mean, instead of just going ‘oh yeah well you must be excusing other bad thing!’
No, genius. I am explaining how the Israeli side is also pretty goddamn far from innocent.
Yet here you were, coming in hot to say ‘how dare you defend the side you’re also condemning.’ I can’t have an argument in the absence of object permanence.
And it’s coincidental that Israeli territory keeps expanding, with settlements and music festivals right on the creeping border. And starvation has nothing to do with their blockade. And no schools or hospitals were shattered into gravel ‘because Hamas was there’ - they only do that to people’s homes.
Incorrect about the Israeli territory expansion - Gaza borders have not changed since 2005 at least. That is definitely an huge issue of contention in the west bank (I totally agree that Israel is out of line there, although many of the activities are in the gray area due to various legal issues complicating the land ownership definitions). The “creeping” settlements have all been there (same location and size) for 50 years or more. For example, Re’em (the kibbutz that hosted the music festival) was founded in 1949.
And it’s well documented that Hamas fires rockets from public buildings:
Also, you put “music festivals” in italics as though that is some extreme example of… what?
Since 2005! Basically forever!
And yet another genius thinks it’s gotta be either/or. You can blame them both. Two war crimes don’t make a right. Firing rockets is bad, actually - but so is blowing up the entire god-damn apartment building, because someone fired rockets from it.
This should not have to be explained to any sane adult.
Oh no not music festivals! Better murder hundreds of EDM kids and rape some next to their dead friends for having the audacity to have a peace and love dancing experience near Gaza.
“Near Gaza” meaning “on stolen land.”
You could not miss the point harder if you tried. You are not capable. You’d have to care what words mean, instead of just going ‘oh yeah well you must be excusing other bad thing!’ No, genius. I am explaining how the Israeli side is also pretty goddamn far from innocent.
Who gives a fuck whose land it’s on? They’re civilians, Hamas has NO reason or justification for attacking a music festival it holds no military or strategic value. Those civilians didn’t bomb Palestinians. They aren’t the people pushing expansion. They’re just fucking civilians, and if you’re going to say one side killing civilians, even accidentally, is bad, you HAVE to condemn the other side for willingly attacking a civilian gathering.
Do you speak English?
I try not to.
Very valuable addition to the conversation, call out a bit in a post made still groggy from waking up instead of actually addressing the argument. GOTTEEEEEEM I fuckin guess.
Get back to me when you want to address the point.
If you didn’t read what you’re replying to, in the first place, how would more words help?
Yet here you were, coming in hot to say ‘how dare you defend the side you’re also condemning.’ I can’t have an argument in the absence of object permanence.