Yeah. But seems no one is using them. I mean the main issue with digital modes will be selling new devices. But even then. New channels are not being released.
(edit meaning most existing shortwave recievers do not have support for such mods. Hams and expensive recievers tend to be it. Some more common units would need to be sold able to tune into HF. Not complex but not here now at everyday pricing.)
i was wondering a little while back about a few hams in multiple nations trying to run a shortwave station for fun. IE get a commercial licence and sell radio company advertising. While experienting with new modes. Would take sopme seriose work but I can see many people getting into it. If it was done from different nations at different times and bands. It could be interesting to the ham community as a whole.
That’s basically what shortwave pirates are. Usually former ham transceivers modified to transmit out of band. The cost of licensing and building a shortwave broadcast station are immense. And there’s the pesky problem of finding advertisers when the license scheme basically requires you to at least look like you are targeting non-domestic audiences. Hams have occasionally purchased time on existing transmitters when it’s cheap, but as far as “experimental modes” go, it would typically have to be something that can be modulated by an AM transmitter.
The idea was just something that poped in my head a few months back. So far from thought out. Was just considering a way to make SWL more active (legally).
The idea was (relativly low power <2k) stations located in multiple nations. So to some extent licencing would be in each nation. Linked via the internet. So for many the US/UK/EU/japan are the destination. They would act as an interesting to listen to. Constant signal monitor. Hopefully pulling in new hams. Much as LW and MW radio did back in the day.
But it would also allow (ham based) advertisers (via some org) to target adds at the locations there customers are trying to hear.
As i say just an idea popped in to my head. (was sober honestly… I think). And of course it would take some serious effort to licence.
But outside the US these frequencies are not getting used much. And while such things would seem new. The idea is not far from existing low power community broardcast licences. As the multiple SW broadcast bands are well known to travel. Most nations licencing agencies would see the value. While the actual idea fits well into the ITU use model of the bands.
The bit most nations may hard to manage. Is allocation the same or similart frequencies from different nations. So the signal can move home without huge changes in frequency. Allowing easy find.
Well that and finding loads of folks interested in actually doing it. As I say. Just a thought.
I agree, a low power SWL license scheme would be fantastic. If you think you can convince your representative to advocate for it, go for it. Currently, even low power community FM is barely tolerated as a license class, and regulators tend to think of SWL as REQUIRING that the targeted audience be non-domestic.
Increasingly, it really doesn’t need to die. Digital modes are available for enhanced AM which could provide shudder stereo and more.
Yeah. But seems no one is using them. I mean the main issue with digital modes will be selling new devices. But even then. New channels are not being released.
(edit meaning most existing shortwave recievers do not have support for such mods. Hams and expensive recievers tend to be it. Some more common units would need to be sold able to tune into HF. Not complex but not here now at everyday pricing.)
i was wondering a little while back about a few hams in multiple nations trying to run a shortwave station for fun. IE get a commercial licence and sell radio company advertising. While experienting with new modes. Would take sopme seriose work but I can see many people getting into it. If it was done from different nations at different times and bands. It could be interesting to the ham community as a whole.
That’s basically what shortwave pirates are. Usually former ham transceivers modified to transmit out of band. The cost of licensing and building a shortwave broadcast station are immense. And there’s the pesky problem of finding advertisers when the license scheme basically requires you to at least look like you are targeting non-domestic audiences. Hams have occasionally purchased time on existing transmitters when it’s cheap, but as far as “experimental modes” go, it would typically have to be something that can be modulated by an AM transmitter.
i was thinking a little more official.
The idea was just something that poped in my head a few months back. So far from thought out. Was just considering a way to make SWL more active (legally).
The idea was (relativly low power <2k) stations located in multiple nations. So to some extent licencing would be in each nation. Linked via the internet. So for many the US/UK/EU/japan are the destination. They would act as an interesting to listen to. Constant signal monitor. Hopefully pulling in new hams. Much as LW and MW radio did back in the day.
But it would also allow (ham based) advertisers (via some org) to target adds at the locations there customers are trying to hear.
As i say just an idea popped in to my head. (was sober honestly… I think). And of course it would take some serious effort to licence.
But outside the US these frequencies are not getting used much. And while such things would seem new. The idea is not far from existing low power community broardcast licences. As the multiple SW broadcast bands are well known to travel. Most nations licencing agencies would see the value. While the actual idea fits well into the ITU use model of the bands.
The bit most nations may hard to manage. Is allocation the same or similart frequencies from different nations. So the signal can move home without huge changes in frequency. Allowing easy find.
Well that and finding loads of folks interested in actually doing it. As I say. Just a thought.
I agree, a low power SWL license scheme would be fantastic. If you think you can convince your representative to advocate for it, go for it. Currently, even low power community FM is barely tolerated as a license class, and regulators tend to think of SWL as REQUIRING that the targeted audience be non-domestic.