• Peaty
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    1 year ago

    First you didn’t not include a definition. Second, dictionaries aren’t authoritative sources but rather descriptive ones. If you need that explained to you then you are ill equipped for any academic discussion.

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      You are right I did forget here you go.

      Dictionary
      Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
      ter·ror·ist
      noun
      a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
      “four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists”
      Similar:
      bomber
      arsonist
      incendiary
      gunman
      assassin
      desperado
      hijacker
      revolutionary
      radical
      guerrilla
      urban guerrilla
      subversive
      anarchist
      freedom fighter
      insurrectionist
      insurrectionary
      adjective
      unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
      “a terrorist organization”

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        You’ll note nowhere on that list of synonyms are terms used for militaries. That’s not by accident. It’s because national militaries aren’t terrorist groups.

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      1 year ago

      Correct. There is no authority in language except French. So your pedantic arguments are also flawed. Your own argument works against you

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        There is also ones for other languages.

        Regardless the point is a dictionary does not define words but rather describes how they are used. Even if it covered national militaries, which it does not, it wouldn’t support your claim. In fact it would be an “appeal to authority”

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          Your reference to academic debate in a previous comment is hilarious. Academics know how to stay on topic.

          The original comment you replied to was referencing Israel’s behavior as terroristic. You provided a counter argument that nation states cannot conduct terrorism based on the definition of the term terrorism. When provided with evidence supporting the opposing claim, you say the evidence is not valid because it is not authoritative. You then say there is no authoritative source for such evidence. You then use a classic goal post argument method of saying, “even if your argument is invalid, that doesn’t work because x,” rather than focusing on the original argument. You also misuse appeal to authority. Appeal to authority as a fallacy is only a fallacy when the item in question isn’t explicitly defined by that authority. When you moved the goal post, you operated under the assumption of your continued argument that dictionaries are authoritative. However, your language is imprecise enough that you’re going to claim you didn’t make that assumption.

          That is not proper academic debate method. That is political debate method. This is the kind of shit that makes it difficult to make meaningful progress today. But hey, since we’re not doing proper academic debate anyway, I’ll indulge in some ad hominem. You’re a terrible person for trying to confound a serious issue with irrelevant pedantic arguments and arguments in bad faith. Fuck off. No one cares if “terrorism” - as defined by you as some authority on words - can be applied to nation states. A nation state committed an act meant to cause terror in civilians (in order to take their land). People understood that as the intent, which is the purpose of words anyway.

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            1 year ago

            Im not a troll you just do not seem to understand how to have a discussion.