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    Holy shit I can’t believe the liberals and their fucking Hilary 2016 talking points are still here. Not everything is Russia, in fact most things are not Russia. when people on the internet call you a fucking idiot, for your brain dead takes it’s not Russians doing that.
    Also “america” shouldn’t “survive” this at all. America is trash, and american democracy isn’t worth saving.

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      I mean, it’s China’s too - as well as Saudi Arabia, and others. But Russia seems to be the most effective at it. Hell, for that matter, US intelligence does it abroad too. All first-world nations probably participate in this kind of destabilization tactic to some degree.

      Why do you think the Great Firewall of China exists? Same reason – we were filling their heads with anti-communist propaganda and that’s the only way China deemed was possible to keep us out.

      Hell, a large batch of our Republican politicians visited Russia on independence day 2018: https://americanindependent.com/republicans-congress-celebrated-fourth-of-july-russia/

      So yeah, they seem to be the ones courting our politicians the most now, and it seemed relevant to discuss.

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        I’m actually more worried about Israeli influence in the US government which is well documented, and well funded, and pays huge dividends but no one ever brings them up for some reason.

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          39 months ago

          Meanwhile I’m far more worried about individual private interests like banks and military weapons manufacturers and oil interests controlling US and every other countries interests that is even more well documented and even more detrimental to our countries and the world at large, and can be more easily fixed than complex foreign affairs, but that seems to always be the last thing anybody brings up with these things.

          But they’re all issues and playing “my issue is more important than yours” isn’t helpful for any leftist agenda man.

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            -99 months ago

            That is a separate issue with capitalism but would be a non-sequitur in the case. When liberals bring up Russia, but ignore Israel who actually do the things they accuse Russia of, it is correct to point out the contradiction.

            Of course Capitalism is a problem, but that isn’t what the person I was responding to was defending.

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              19 months ago

              When liberals bring up Russia, but ignore Israel who actually do the things they accuse Russia of, it is correct to point out the contradiction.

              You realize that Israel is basically an intelligence arm of the US, operating within range of russia and the middle east right? MOST of our intelligence tools come from Israel. THAT is why nobody is pointing it out, because they’re operating under our umbrella.

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      49 months ago

      Well it’s certainly not Russians downvoting you through the basement. Its “people on the internet calling you a fucking idiot for your brain dead takes”

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      49 months ago

      You’d have to be an idiot to think it’s not Russia when they tried to overturn an election to help a Russian asset.