I dont have any problem with it i simply would like to see peoples different opinions, so, this is what the system would be generally used for/what id like it to do:

  1. stay out of my way (just work), ex: i dont get any notifications i dont want from the system itself and all i need to do is type 3 letters to initiate an update

  2. requires little ram to actually use (not really needed due to hardware but simply to reduce the pcs noise as much as possible, bonus points if programs generally do the same thing on it)

  3. Doesnt require too much fiddling (endevouros never needs this generally, when installing something it usually installs everything you need for things to work, i prefer GUIs usually but if its deadsimple commands like yay its fine as well)

  4. I game and stream so both would need to be doable as easy as possible (i use obs, when it comes to games i usually do emulation and try to avoid proton)

id love to hear what yall would recommend, thanks yall in advance

  • MandyOPEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    wow thats a very detailed response! those are some very compelling reason.

    are files in home affected by an immutable distro? Would you still recommend silverblue for nvidia? when i tried fedora before (3 times in total) my system was honestly nigh unusable with or without nvidia drivers

    • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de
      3·
      1 year ago

      are files in home affected by an immutable distro?

      No, there’s a clear distinction between “your stuff” and “the OS’ stuff”, which is one reason I find immutables easier to work with, especially for beginners.
      Pretty much everything you interact with (files, program data, configs, etc.) are in your personal folder.

      On traditional ones, there’s a weird mish mash and everything is cluttered.

      Would you still recommend silverblue for nvidia?

      Yes, but especially the uBlue Nvidia spin, where the driver is integrated and more guaranteed to work.
      On “normal” SB you have to install that driver yourself.

      To rebase to the uBlue Nvidia image(s), you just have to follow the easy guide for the net-installer or rebase to one of their images, which is also very easy.

      • MandyOPEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        i dont trust myself at all, every time something has to be done manually there is a good chance, even with simply copy and paste instructions that it might fail (and it has in the past), are there readymade images available?

        • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de
          3·
          1 year ago

          The cool thing is: you literally can’t do anything wrong!

          If you do a mistake, which honestly is hard to do, you just rollback and try again. You only loose 2 minutes.

          The images are already pre-made. You just either

          • Use the net-installer from uBlue, where you can select the image, or
          • Go from the original SB (I had to do that, since the installer didn’t work at the time due to my internet connection) and rebase.

          The How-To is also very easy to follow, and that’s coming from a dumb-ass like myself.

          Try it, and if you have problems, ask me. I’m here :)

          • MandyOPEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            thank you again for being so considerate about all this and since you offer your help… so, i see that rebasing is a thing, does that simply mean it changes the entire system? is it just the immutable part? if i wanna install a certain DE for one reason or another…does that count as part of the system?

            apologies for these questions i just never used an immutable distro before

            • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de
              21·
              1 year ago

              As I said earlier, there’s now a clear distinction between “the OS base” (stuff like your UI and the whole construct that provides a working PC, which you shouldn’t touch or worry about) and “your stuff” (programs you installed yourself, cat pictures, and so on).

              They are, opposed to traditional distros, decoupled now.

              And “rebasing” means just that: you swap out “the OS”-part, while keeping your cat pictures, Spotify and OBS.

              On a normal distro, you basically have to reinstall the whole OS, since switching from Gnome to KDE for example messes with many many dependencies, and in the best case, only makes KDE now more unstable and in general messy.

              If you are experienced, you can do it relatively easy, but the times I did, it felt really really dirty…

              On Silverblue for example, you have a Gnome and a KDE spin. And if you rebase, you now switched to the KDE version, just like you would by reinstalling the whole OS and then copying your files.

              The cool thing now is, the KDE base is just one of many potential bases, especially if you look at uBlue.
              There are hundreds of community deviations, like a “Vanilla” Silverblue with pre-installed Nvidia-drivers, which are tied to the base OS, so they should be less likely to break because you use the same image as thousands of other people. Or a special “gaming-console”-image, which is a clone of SteamOS with many gaming related tweaks.

              P.S.: I don’t wanna be rude, but why did you choose EndeavorOS? Was it because of the good looking desktop theme?
              You don’t seem to be experienced enough to use Arch in my eyes. I wouldn’t be too if I’m honest.

              You know that you can just theme KDE or other DEs exactly like EOS with one click, right?

    • superguy@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 year ago

      I highly recommend avoiding most of what he said. He parrots a lot of fringe talking points that only really exist on forums.

      In the real world, pretty much all of what he says is bullshit.

      You’ll have to see for yourself to experience it, though. Don’t let people like him bog you down in theory.