As Israel’s assault on Gaza continued Friday with 4,100 Palestinians—including over 1,600 children—killed and at least 13,000 others wounded by relentless bombardment that’s destroyed or damaged nearly a third of the besieged strip’s homes, Amnesty International shared “damning evidence of war crimes as Israeli attacks wipe out entire families.” Amnesty interviewed survivors and eyewitnesses, analyzed … Continue reading "Amnesty Probe Finds ‘Damning Evidence of War Crimes’ by Israel in Gaza"
We know for sure that war crimes are being committed by both sides of this. We know that’s happening in Ukraine too. We know the USA, UK, Canada, etc. and their allies committed serious war crimes in previous engagements.
Nobody follows the rules. Having rules in war is pretty stupid. The only rules are the ones your citizens will vote you out (or otherwise depose you) for crossing and that is nowhere close to what’s happening right now. We (humanity) are willing to accept a lot of horrific shit to “win” when we think we’re right.
Hard disagree. The Geneva Conventions and Rules of War were a good idea and we in democratic countries should strive to make our governments uphold them as much as we can.
As an international community we should hold leaders accountable for their troops’ actions.
After the chemical weapons in WWI everyone said no more. After the Holocaust in WWII everyone said no more. Sure there have been more since then but it is nothing on the carnage and horror of what would have unfolded without any rules.
And yet “everyone” didn’t sign on the enforcement mechanism. In fact, of the countries with the top 10 armies (by active personnel, not effectiveness) only 1 has signed onto participate in the International Criminal Court (South Korea)
China, India, USA, Russia, Iran… They all said no
The rules aren’t stopping anyone, that’s why they keep getting violated. The worst rules haven’t been violated yet because nobody has been desperate enough, but it will absolutely happen.
@BlameThePeacock yes it’s deplorable that the superpowers have placed themselves above international law. I still disagree with your conclusion that we should have no law.
Worth noting the ICC is meant as a court of last resort for people who can’t prosecute war crimes in their own countries due to infrastructure or jurisdiction. As such it still provides enormous value, even if there are some war criminals we cannot touch.
Putin is dead if he tries that. The rest of the world will depose him forcefully.
It’s not like he’s not doing it because of the Geneva convention right now. He’s clearly not following many of those rules already because he knows nobody will stop him.
That’s what I’m saying, the only thing that matters in war is the limits imposed by others, Not self limits.
You realize the US never signed the agreement to allow the International Criminal Court to prosecute Americans for war crimes right?
Neither did Israel, Russia, China, or India.
The Geneva convention is essentially a guidebook at this point, it has no enforcement mechanism against anybody that matters in the current military engagements happening in the world.
We know for sure that war crimes are being committed by both sides of this. We know that’s happening in Ukraine too. We know the USA, UK, Canada, etc. and their allies committed serious war crimes in previous engagements.
Nobody follows the rules. Having rules in war is pretty stupid. The only rules are the ones your citizens will vote you out (or otherwise depose you) for crossing and that is nowhere close to what’s happening right now. We (humanity) are willing to accept a lot of horrific shit to “win” when we think we’re right.
Hard disagree. The Geneva Conventions and Rules of War were a good idea and we in democratic countries should strive to make our governments uphold them as much as we can.
As an international community we should hold leaders accountable for their troops’ actions.
After the chemical weapons in WWI everyone said no more. After the Holocaust in WWII everyone said no more. Sure there have been more since then but it is nothing on the carnage and horror of what would have unfolded without any rules.
And yet “everyone” didn’t sign on the enforcement mechanism. In fact, of the countries with the top 10 armies (by active personnel, not effectiveness) only 1 has signed onto participate in the International Criminal Court (South Korea)
China, India, USA, Russia, Iran… They all said no
The rules aren’t stopping anyone, that’s why they keep getting violated. The worst rules haven’t been violated yet because nobody has been desperate enough, but it will absolutely happen.
@BlameThePeacock yes it’s deplorable that the superpowers have placed themselves above international law. I still disagree with your conclusion that we should have no law.
Worth noting the ICC is meant as a court of last resort for people who can’t prosecute war crimes in their own countries due to infrastructure or jurisdiction. As such it still provides enormous value, even if there are some war criminals we cannot touch.
So Russia should start using nuclear weapons and chemical and biological attacks, and blowing up nuclear power plants in Ukraine, then?
Putin is dead if he tries that. The rest of the world will depose him forcefully.
It’s not like he’s not doing it because of the Geneva convention right now. He’s clearly not following many of those rules already because he knows nobody will stop him.
That’s what I’m saying, the only thing that matters in war is the limits imposed by others, Not self limits.
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You realize the US never signed the agreement to allow the International Criminal Court to prosecute Americans for war crimes right? Neither did Israel, Russia, China, or India.
The Geneva convention is essentially a guidebook at this point, it has no enforcement mechanism against anybody that matters in the current military engagements happening in the world.
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Who said that?
I’m inviting BlameThePeacock to understand the ramifications of what they’re proposing.
And I was inviting you to think whether someone actually said what you’re implying.