Here we go again…

        • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
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          1 年前

          Never been to Glasgow then?

          Nope I haven’t… Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question…

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom

          In 2018 there were 4,629 criminal gangs and syndicates in Britain, employing 33,598 professional gangsters.

          Which translates to about 5 per 10000 people are in a gang in Britain…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population

          an estimated 1.4 million in 33,000 gangs in 2011.[1][2][3] About 900,000 gang members lived “within local communities across the country”, and about 147,000 were in U.S. prisons or jails in 2009.[4]

          Which translates to about… 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA…

          So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.

          Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially… it’s much higher…

            • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
              11·
              1 年前

              Taking them away certainly isn’t… Criminals don’t care about laws… That’s kind of the definition.

              • Bernie EcclestonedEnglish
                11·
                1 年前

                It’s the American way, only do the right thing after you’ve exhausted every other option

                • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
                  11·
                  1 年前

                  I’m not tracking. You think that taking guns away will somehow make the 1.4 million people abstain from gang violence?

                  • Bernie EcclestonedEnglish
                    11·
                    1 年前

                    What does the evidence say? I’d bet that taking guns away leads to less gun deaths.

                    It’s weird that nobody banged on about gun rights until the black panthers did.