Here we go again…

        • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
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          1 year ago

          Never been to Glasgow then?

          Nope I haven’t… Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question…

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom

          In 2018 there were 4,629 criminal gangs and syndicates in Britain, employing 33,598 professional gangsters.

          Which translates to about 5 per 10000 people are in a gang in Britain…

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population

          an estimated 1.4 million in 33,000 gangs in 2011.[1][2][3] About 900,000 gang members lived “within local communities across the country”, and about 147,000 were in U.S. prisons or jails in 2009.[4]

          Which translates to about… 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA…

          So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.

          Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially… it’s much higher…

            • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Taking them away certainly isn’t… Criminals don’t care about laws… That’s kind of the definition.

              • Bernie EcclestonedEnglish
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                1 year ago

                It’s the American way, only do the right thing after you’ve exhausted every other option

                • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  I’m not tracking. You think that taking guns away will somehow make the 1.4 million people abstain from gang violence?

                  • Bernie EcclestonedEnglish
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                    1 year ago

                    What does the evidence say? I’d bet that taking guns away leads to less gun deaths.

                    It’s weird that nobody banged on about gun rights until the black panthers did.