Exploding-heads.com is another instance on Lemmy where alt-right MAGA types tend to reside. Some people on this server want us to defederate from them immediately, some people want to save defederation as a last resort. They have 104 active users (more stats below).

It seems that exploding-heads has also experienced a recent botswarm invasion. This is obviously another point in favor of defederating them, assuming you are worried about botswarms, which is currently being discussed here.

My advice to you all is please try to discuss this in a civil manner, we need not allow them to create divisive conflict inside our communities. No matter how the vote turns out, you’re not going to be able to defederate from your fellow sh.itheads so be nice.

I’ve linked many of the previous discussions below so people who are out of the loop can get a general sense of the situation.

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 https://sh.itjust.works/post/281126 https://sh.itjust.works/post/410325

Lemmy.world just recently defederated them.

https://lemmy.world/post/747912

https://lemmy.world/post/577526

Although this could be considered a point in favor of defederation, it actually means even if we vote to remain federated, people have a great alternative in lemmy.world where they can still participate in our communities and simultaneously be protected from exploding-heads.

Ensuring diversity of servers is beneficial to the platform as a whole, but it is also not our responsibility to bear that burden.

TLDR, just wrap up any last points in this thread before we open the vote tomorrow. Please be civil.

EDIT: To clarify, this isn’t the official vote, this is the final discussion. The vote thread will be posted tomorrow and you will only be allowed to make a single comment saying Aye or Nay.

EDIT2: Vote thread is up, this thread is now locked. Very lively discussion thread sh.itheads. Please try to be more respectful next time.

  • Difficult_Bit_1339M
    77·
    1 year ago

    They are analogous to pedophiles in that an isolated pedophile who is constantly reminded how wrong their desires are is much less likely to act on them. But given the opportunity to find others like them, they will group up and conspire to commit horrible atrocities.

    That doesn’t really work in this instance.

    De-federation doesn’t remove them from their instance, it doesn’t remove their instance from the Fediverse, they are free to sit and talk to other people who share their ideas and, since they’re de-federated, they’re cut off from anybody who could possibly tell them that they have the wrong ideas.

    There is nothing that you can do to make, for example, the EH instance not exist. De-federation doesn’t make them go away, it doesn’t prevent people from joining their instance, it simply blocks everyone on this instance from interacting with them. They’re still posting every day, still having bad ideas, still sharing bad content.

    De-federation is just a block list that is enforced on everyone on the same instance. By asking for de-federation you’re not asking for your ability to block them (you already have that ability), you’re asking for the ability to force other people to block them.

    You curate your own block list, and I’ll curate my own block list. De-federation doesn’t exist for you to apply your idea of a good filter to everybody else that shares an instance with you.