SPATA, Greece (AP) — In an olive grove on the outskirts of Athens, grower Konstantinos Markou pushes aside the shoots of new growth to reveal the stump of a tree — a roughly 150-year-old specimen, he said, that was among 15 cut down on his neighbor’s land by thieves eager to turn it into money.

  • @Kecessa
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    -88 months ago

    Unemployment is over 10% and was over 20% in 2015, poverty is over 20%, farms are fucking expensive, these people are better off than a big chunk of the population.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      108 months ago

      So anyone’s who’s even just a little bit better off than you is fair game? If you have a bicycle but your neighbor has two then you can freely steal his bicycle?

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        In a fair system the neighbor wouldn’t have more than one bike if not everyone can have more than one bike.

        Heck, that’s the way children are raised with their siblings but as soon as we reach a certain age it’s like people just forget what they taught their kids for years.

        • rhythmisaprancer
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          38 months ago

          I disagree with that is what we teach kids, we actually teach them essentially the opposite. This helps them, especially when young, to understand why someone else may receive a gift (it’s their birthday) but they do not.

          In general, I think that you are in line with Cynicism, but I am unsure how theft fits in to that view. It seems very possible with their general adherence to having as few possessions as possible and a general disregard for shame. We need our Cynic!

          • @Kecessa
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            -38 months ago

            Man, good luck managing your children if one of them has a bunch of stuff and the other doesn’t.

            • @[email protected]
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              48 months ago

              Is your sense of fairness to just read half of what’s written and understanding only half of what’s read? Leaving the other half for others? It feels like it is, reading your responses here.

              I honestly don’t know how you got here from what was written. I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume English isn’t your first language. That said, when it isn’t, you should really avoid being a pedant.

            • rhythmisaprancer
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              28 months ago

              Well, that’s true, but that wasn’t what I meant (or said I guess). What I meant is that sometimes we have to wait for gratification, even while others get something we want or need. Relevant to this thread, because the system has broken down/is built in a flawed manner (as you rightly pointed out) many folks have waited, only to never receive gratification.

              I wasn’t really trying to call you wrong or anything, just a minor point I guess. This is a challenging situation, I won’t claim to have the right answer!

            • @[email protected]
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              18 months ago

              Have you ever heard the phrase “golden child”? It’s sadly relatively common for a certain sort of dysfunctional family. Screws up entire lifetimes for people.

      • @Kecessa
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        I live next to a bunch of them actually, there’s a crisis because no one can start working in that field because land is too expensive. Farmers are poor in the sense that they don’t make much a year, they’re fucking rich once they sell the land they’ve owned for the past 40 years.

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          98 months ago

          So you are excited that these farmers are now forced to sell to a big corpo farm conglomerate, since their crop has been killed off and wont make ends meet for 3-5 years?

          You sound positively giddy about more consolidation of wealth. Like youre eager for more poverty.