J.D. Vance, the junior U.S. senator from Ohio, zeroed in on this in a social media post on Wednesday: “We’ve spent so much time winning a legal argument on abortion that we’ve fallen behind on the moral argument,” he wrote.
Vance is right.
J.D. Vance, the junior U.S. senator from Ohio, zeroed in on this in a social media post on Wednesday: “We’ve spent so much time winning a legal argument on abortion that we’ve fallen behind on the moral argument,” he wrote.
Vance is right.
What I love about this argument, that conservatives aren’t making the moral case for banning abortion, is that it’s just not true. The premiere anti-abortion think tank Family Research Council only makes the moral case for banning abortion. The real problem is that the moral case is made in terms of Christianity:
Only problem is that Americans are decreasingly Christian. The Christian ideology doesn’t have the same pull it used to. Even when it did have greater pull in the 1970s, Roe v. Wade was decided. So, the Christian moral case for abortion probably isn’t that effective, even at its best.
And a more secular moral case against abortion, that it’s harmful to women physically and psychologically, is scientifically wrong. The only way to really overcome this problem is to pull a page out of the Handbook of Tobacco and Fossil Fuels and create their own crappy scientific studies that work backwards from the conclusion to manufacture data, i.e: not science.
I’m pretty sure there’s a case in the Bible where abortion is basically recommended when the wife cheats on you? I remember something about a noxious potion being taken to kill the illegitimate offspring.
You’re thinking of the Ordeal of the Bitter Water which is described as a way to judge if a pregnant woman has cheated on her husband. If accused by her husband, the woman would be forced to drink unclean water. If the baby died but the woman lived, it was deemed she was raped. If the baby and woman both die, then she purposefully cheated. If they both lived, the woman’s husband was the father. It was thought that God would save the woman/child if they were innocent and murder them if they weren’t.
God is alright with killing unborn babies and pregnant women if certain conditions are met. Here’s a long list of bible verses where God deems children under a month old to be valueless, miscarriage as a form of punishment, and killing of pregnant women justifiable.
sounds like the test for witchcraft
It is true, the bible has what is essentially an instruction for an abortion potion.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 5%3A11-31&version=NIV
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“scientifically wrong” is just a fundamentally bullshit claim. Questions of value, by their nature, are not resolvable by science.
Whether abortions bans cause harm is well-within the scientific realm. You might disagree with what “harm” means, but that’s not what you’re arguing. And even if you were, I’m not sure how you’d argue that closing abortion clinics, which often offer other services than just abortions, is not harmful.
But feel free to make the argument, I suppose.
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I suppose if I failed to read as spectacularly as you, I’d have a reason to follow your directive.
Lmao you’re the only failure here pal. Sorry that you’re a worthless rat
It seems you missed the first half of that sentence, which was not referring to a question of value:
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“Is X safe?” isn’t a question of value. It is a scientifically verifiable question. You need to actually read.
“harm” is a question of value. The fact you pretend otherwise means your either too stupid or too dishonest to be worth talking to further.
No it isn’t, it’s objectively measurable. If you lose 3L of blood, the harms associated can be objectively measured. If you lose a limb, the harms are objectively measurable. If you smoke a pack a day, the decrease in your lifespan is objectively measurable.
What the fuck are you talking about.
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You need to take a look in the mirror if you can’t go two seconds without resorting to ad hominems.
If there is a stupid sack of shit rat among the two of us, it clearly isn’t me.
In the same way septic tanks “subjectively” smell bad. Get a grip and learn to care about something other than semantics.
Just a heads up, using the r-slur is against instance rules. Please edit your comment.
I didn’t ask
I’ve removed your comment, consider it your official warning. No r-slurs, or any other slurs for that matter.
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