Isn’t being that insecure stereotypically feminine behaviour - ya know… Kinda gay?
If you want to be gay, be gay. If you want to be a bit gay, be a bit gay. if you don’t, that’s totally fine too - Just stop worrying about crossing some arbitrary line into… what?
If cleaning up after yourself leads to you railing some dude, the cleaning up was never the problem, and maybe you just opened yourself up to something wonderful.
It sounds like you’re trying to apply reason to the perception of behaviour as masculine, feminine, straight or gay, and the perception of those categorisations as positive or negative.
I’m just applying the same type of nonsensical stereotypes this group will display to show that this is gay behaviour too, and the entire discussion is moronic. I say this as a cishet guy that went to a boys school and heard all this nonsense regularly.
Just clean up your shit - if that somehow leads you to discover your love of men, roll with it… you were almost certainly always gay, and that’s something to embrace not fear.
Yeah, but “applying the same type of stereotypes” is an example of trying to reason about this kind of thinking which can’t be done. You see a parallel between worrying about something silly like how you’re perceived for being green, and other stereotypically feminine behaviours - but prejudiced people don’t see or don’t care about that parallel.
Those prejudiced people aren’t likely to be browsing !/gay - my comments weren’t for their benefit.
Do you think you’re having more success bringing prejudiced people around in here than I am, or do you think there might be reasons to post here that aren’t for the benefit of the prejudiced?
My understanding was exactly that you were reasoning about that kind of thinking - hence the start of that sentence, “It sounds like you’re trying to apply reason…” ;) If not I don’t understand your original comment!
Does insecurity so crippling it stops you from cleaning up after yourself when camping seem well aligned with the stereotypical ultra-masculine archetype to you?
Of course it’s ultimately all nonsense and stereotypes - but that’s really the point - this arbitrary “that’s gay… and that’s a problem” nonsense just draws lines people fear to cross and limits their freedom for no benefit.
Isn’t being that insecure stereotypically feminine behaviour - ya know… Kinda gay?
If you want to be gay, be gay. If you want to be a bit gay, be a bit gay. if you don’t, that’s totally fine too - Just stop worrying about crossing some arbitrary line into… what?
If cleaning up after yourself leads to you railing some dude, the cleaning up was never the problem, and maybe you just opened yourself up to something wonderful.
It sounds like you’re trying to apply reason to the perception of behaviour as masculine, feminine, straight or gay, and the perception of those categorisations as positive or negative.
That is misguided :)
I’m just applying the same type of nonsensical stereotypes this group will display to show that this is gay behaviour too, and the entire discussion is moronic. I say this as a cishet guy that went to a boys school and heard all this nonsense regularly.
Just clean up your shit - if that somehow leads you to discover your love of men, roll with it… you were almost certainly always gay, and that’s something to embrace not fear.
Yeah, but “applying the same type of stereotypes” is an example of trying to reason about this kind of thinking which can’t be done. You see a parallel between worrying about something silly like how you’re perceived for being green, and other stereotypically feminine behaviours - but prejudiced people don’t see or don’t care about that parallel.
Those prejudiced people aren’t likely to be browsing !/gay - my comments weren’t for their benefit.
Do you think you’re having more success bringing prejudiced people around in here than I am, or do you think there might be reasons to post here that aren’t for the benefit of the prejudiced?
Sure, but I don’t know what you’re getting at.
If we’re not posting for the benefit of the prejudiced, there’s no particular need to…
…or worry that
My understanding was exactly that you were reasoning about that kind of thinking - hence the start of that sentence, “It sounds like you’re trying to apply reason…” ;) If not I don’t understand your original comment!
More a case of applying their rationale to demonstrate that it’s not based in reason.
I don’t understand your first line at all.
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I’m dating another man. I don’t know any gay guys who worry about this.
Does insecurity so crippling it stops you from cleaning up after yourself when camping seem well aligned with the stereotypical ultra-masculine archetype to you?
Of course it’s ultimately all nonsense and stereotypes - but that’s really the point - this arbitrary “that’s gay… and that’s a problem” nonsense just draws lines people fear to cross and limits their freedom for no benefit.
Idk anything about that. I was in scouts all the men I know mostly go by the motto leave only footprints.
And I think that’s a fine and good principle to live by.
Shhhh, we’re trying to convince these guys that it’s less gay to save the environment!