• @JohnDClay
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    48 months ago

    5k/kg for Soyuz vs 2.5k/kg for SpaceX? I don’t get your point. Or are you talking about the ride swaps with Russian and US Cosmonauts and Astronauts respectively to ride in each other’s rockets to give dissimilar redundancy?

    • Dr. Dabbles
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      -38 months ago

      Ah yes, the dollars per kilo fallacy. A favorite of people that don’t understand the industry but want to repeat the things Musk tells them to. Fantastic. We’re already on page two of the script. Now, go ahead and tell me how SpaceX invented something that already existed for decades.

      • @JohnDClay
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        18 months ago

        How would you propose measuring launch costs?

        • Dr. Dabbles
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          08 months ago

          You could start off with actual mission costs, launch support costs, and what missions need to be met. For example, this is why Star Shit is such a moronic idea when Falcon could perform all its launch needs.

          Are you about to tell me that a 747 is always cheaper than a Cessna? Is that the next argument in your script, or do we have to skip a couple pages before you bring that one out?

          • @JohnDClay
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            08 months ago

            No, I was going to say that the launch support costs and mission needs are also more capable with falcon 9 than soyuz.

          • @JohnDClay
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            08 months ago

            Starship is actually planned to be better on all those fronts than falcon 9. Cheaper per launch, less support costs, more capable and flexible system, etc. There might be some small use case where falcon 9 is still superior, but it will be pretty small if starship works.

            • Dr. Dabbles
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              18 months ago

              I mean, I now know how little you know. Congratulations tipping your hand here, because truly these are the words of someone that’s a fan of Musk and has zero serious thoughts about space. Jeff Bell would be beside himself reading what you’ve written. Back to the Zubrin books with you.

              • @JohnDClay
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                08 months ago

                You mind enlightening me?

                • Dr. Dabbles
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                  18 months ago

                  It’s guaranteed nothing I could say would make you leave your religion of musk lies. So, I’ll pass. Reality is available for you any time you want to try it out, though.

                  • @JohnDClay
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                    You’ve not actually said anything or given any evidence other than generally waving towards that Russia is cheaper, but have not clarified at all. If you know some secret sauce, I’d be happy to hear it. But you so far have stayed miles away from anything remotely close to solid evidence.