• @0x4E4FOP
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      I am not dead set, that is what happened when the OP on reddit posted this meme.

      OK, let’s step back for a moment and say that, OK, it’s not retarded, maybe the meme depicts these people as stupid… or gullible… or just doing things not in corelation with what we have in the 21st century… why would you do that 🤨. I could make up a 100 memes about people not knowing anything beyond Snaps and Flatpaks (not only that, but using a GUI to install them), when there is clearly a more, not only native, but also optimal, way of doing it, but I don’t. Why? Because I believe that that’s a personal choice. You don’t wanna bother with terminal commands, that’s fine, use whatever UI you like to install packages/Snaps/Flatpaks on your sustem, I have no objection. But calling the default way of doing just about anything on a UNIX based OS stupid, out of date, out of touch with reality, or whatever… excuse me, but you’re the one that’s stupid. It’s like saying “you know what, we have MCUs now and pretty much any protocol works with any other, they all have translations in software/firmware, voltage levels don’t really matter, 3.3V is interpetted as a 1, even though this thing needs 5V, so… yeah, you don’t need to know much more than that about electronics, just buy a bunch of modules, mash them together, it should work, and hey, if it doesn’t, tough luck, mash them up in a different way, you’ll eventually find the right patch that works 😉 👍” is OK as a POV when teaching new engineers about electronics basics.

      You wanna learn something? You start from the ground up. You wanna use a GUI for installing apps on Linux? Fine, but don’t for one second think you’re smarter than thousands of users and devs that have used Linux for more than 30 years.

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        You are really salty about this for someone who claims they don’t care.

        No-one is lording their superiority over you. You just have an inferiority complex because the majority has decided to prioritise different things from what you would choose. And when someone takes shots at people who think “their” idea of optimal is the one true solution, it hits a bit close to home.

        Again, stop saying you, I’m right there with you at the terminal, I’m just not dumb enough to think we can or should bring everyone else up here.

        And why the fuck would I think those users having the OS hold their hands are the smart ones? The whole point is that dumb people should get to use computers, too.

        • @0x4E4FOP
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          06 months ago

          You are really salty about this for someone who claims they don’t care.

          I don’t care as long as the other party doesn’t care as well.

          No-one is lording their superiority over you. You just have an inferiority complex because the majority has decided to prioritise different things from what you would choose. And when someone takes shots at people who think “their” idea of optimal is the one true solution, it hits a bit close to home.

          It litelarly is more optimal… faster, better… fuck, I’m not gonna quote Daft Punk 😂.

          Again, stop saying you, I’m right there with you at the terminal, I’m just not dumb enough to think we can or should bring everyone else up here.

          Not trying to bring them over to the dark side. Just don’t say it’s “drrrr 🤪” when you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

          And why the fuck would I think those users having the OS hold their hands are the smart ones? The whole point is that dumb people should get to use computers, too.

          They should, I completely agree… but they should know their place, just like I know mine. I don’t pretend I’m a dev just because I wrote a few stupid apps and open a few PRs here and there. I’m a geek, that’s all.

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            I’m starting to think you are exactly the elitist gatekeeper the original meme was aimed at.

            Close to home? More like bullseye.

            You’re even defending your optimal as if your circumstance were the only one that counts.

            • @0x4E4FOP
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              But it literaly IS more optimal… how hard is that to grasp.

              My point was, do whatever you want, just don’t make fun of those that actually do stuff the way they were intended to be done in the first place. Use a GUI, hell use an AI for all I care, it’s your computer, not mine 🤷.

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                Not if you’re incapable of learning it… A hammer is optimal for a nail, doesn’t mean you should use it as a saw. How hard is that to grasp?

                And my point is, you’re a snowflake who can’t take a joke. The original meme can be interpreted hurtfully, but you have to choose to do so by giving it way more weight than you ever should a meme.

                • @0x4E4FOP
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                  16 months ago

                  Well, I know one thing, I’m a lot less of a snowflake than a lot of people here are.

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                    Yeah, all-in-all, your contributions are great. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be told off for getting vindictive.

                    And if you wanted to take a swing at me, something like “at least I’m not a care-bear” would have worked better.