cross-posted from: https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/post/726542

I have ~100 users downloaded ~1000 of my files in the last week alone. Music piracy is still alive and kicking. I encourage everyone to download and install SoulseekQT/Nicotine+/Seeker-Android and share whatever kind of music you have for everybody to download. Let’s bring back music piracy!

  • Reborn AshEnglish
    7•1 year ago

    Bruh. I’ve been listening to that stuff for way too long, idk what good quality is anymore.

    But, what about disk space?

    • @RunAwayFrogEnglish
      4•1 year ago

      YouTube has audio in Opus format@~150kbit/s. Opus is a much better format than MP3. Almost all audio is completely transparent at that bitrate, where with MP3s, there are cases where audio is not transparent without using non standard >320kbit/s bitrates (a lot of content is transparent @320kbits/s though).

      Now, sites/tools like the one you mentioned take the Opus (or AAC) file/stream from YouTube, and lossily re-encodes it again, probably to a file that is larger than the original, with at best the same quality, but probably worse quality. You obviously can’t get better output than the input in lossy compression.

      So, the disk space argument is weird if you can play Opus/AAC (should be playable on every device nowadays).

      This is the valid part for why you shouldn’t use YT-to-MP3 converters.

      But there are also invalid reasons why people will tell you it’s shit:

      • They think all MP3s sound like the shit ones from a decade (or two, or three) ago, using low bitrates and/or created with shit encoders. In reality, not all MP3s sound like shit, but vigilance is needed at every encoding step, as is the case with all lossy conversions.
      • They are conflating the quality of the conversion, with the quality of the source, and think the bad quality of some user-uploaded YouTube content is due to the lossy conversion done by YouTube, and/or the MP3 converter re-encoding from YouTube. Content uploaded by the copyright holders (assuming basic competence) does not have that problem at all.
      • Reborn AshEnglish
        1•1 year ago

        Interesting. So, if that’s the case, how do I get soulseek?

        • @RunAwayFrogEnglish
          2•1 year ago

          Soulseek is an old-style P2P network. It has nothing to do with my parent comment. I personally don’t use it (see my other comments in this thread).

          If you want to grab a non-reencoded file from YouTube, you can use a tool like yt-dlp

          # see what formats are available for a YT vid
yt-dlp -F <youtube-url>
# format 251 is usually available as the highest quality Opus format
yt-dlp -f 251 <youtube-url>

          That last command should grab you an Opus stream in WEBM format.

          If you’re not a CLI guy, others should be able to give you a good GUI recommendation.