‘Enshittification’ is coming for absolutely everything::The term describes the slow decay of online platforms such as Facebook. But what if we’ve entered the ‘enshittocene’?

  • spyd3r
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    9 months ago

    Without capitalism there wouldn’t be anything to enshitify…

    • nyctre@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Yes, because the first guy who lit a fire on purpose was like: “you want warm? You give food! Else fuck off!”

      /s

      • GeneralInterest@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        To be fair, he may well have been like that. Humans have been selfish bastards since the dawn of time. And maybe this is why we need good government regulations - because human nature is greed. Any company in a position of power will just leech as much money as they can, if nobody is going to stop them.

        • floofloof@lemmy.ca
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          9 months ago

          If you think human nature is greed and selfishness, you’re falling for capitalist indoctrination. Humans have the capacity for greed or selfishness but it has not always been the dominant principle of human societies. But capitalists want us to believe it’s just “human nature” to be an asshole so there’s no viable alternative to a greed-based society.

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            9 months ago

            I’m not trying to justify unlimited greed, nor do I mean that we should permit unlimited greed. I’m saying the opposite of that - I think we should have laws to curtail unlimited greed.

            But I do still think greed and selfishness are human nature, because when I look at humans, I consistently see selfishness and greed. Maybe this means I’m a pessimist but I think it’s just realistic. If humans weren’t inherently greedy and selfish then there would be no need for laws that punish theft.

            As for whether greed and selfishness have been dominant in human societies… it looks like the rich and powerful in society, throughout history, never gave up their power and wealth unless they were made to do so.

    • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 months ago

      I wonder what arguments people have to justify a downvote. Polarized either/or views. Capitalism is a great idea if regulated. Look to history and find good examples of societies that aren’t based on capitalism. They don’t exist.

      I agree and value the Marxist analysis of capitalism. I’m a socialist. However, I don’t think that a Marxist economy would work. Social responsible capitalism works. Capitalism run amok doesn’t. Unfortunately, it is getting out of control, especially in the USA.

      • TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        What we have here is a capitalism that is devoid of the creation of goods and services; today’s capitalism is just neofeudalism in which the capitalist just collects rent without creating anything. This thread is confusing capitalism woth commerce.

      • EchoCT@lemmy.ml
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        9 months ago

        If you were a socialist you’d know what dialectical materialism is and not say something like “Marxist economy”.

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        9 months ago

        What is the solution for when capitalism purchases the regulators? You can purchase SCOTUS rulings for laughably cheap and legislation for even less. If you’re really into it, you can spend several decades building up a propaganda network so low information clowns will vote in an obvious con man. He’ll drop corporate taxes down to zero, give trillions in handouts, and dismantle pesky shit like the EPA. Profits!